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Jimandsi
10-06-2011, 14:45
What an insult this is .....

That lovely black Labrador, "******" played a part in British history and they're going to change his name in case it upsets the Yanks.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-13727908

:ashamed:

AL JAY
10-06-2011, 14:51
Have to agree with you Jimbo, I despise all the Pc nonsense , Whats wrong with saying "Blackboard" "Actress" "Robertsons jam Golliwogs" etc!!! I think we will be in the minority though!

balababe
10-06-2011, 15:14
It is a really difficult one and is the result of some terms being used in a derogatory way. My first husband was Pakistani and I would have felt very angry if he had been referred to as a **** - this is simply a short version of Pakistani, but has been used as an insult and therefore is perceived to be an insult. Basically, I feel that if anyone is offended or hurt by a term, it should not be used. My granddaughter asked me last weekend what the work "picanninny" meant - from a lullaby she had heard and initially I was horrified. However, I thought again and remembered that it used to be an affectionate term for a black baby or child. However, it was also patronising, which led to the fact that it became unacceptible.

I agree, however, with words like blackboard being considered politically uncorrect - this is just stupid and we appear to use the term whiteboard without anyone getting upset.

I visited Pakistan recently for a wedding - my first husband's great niece - and although I visited supposedly unsafe places such as Islamabad, I have never met such kind, friendly people. However, I am getting off topic.

reggie
10-06-2011, 15:34
The word **** will never go away, its part of british culture now, nip to the **** shop etc, Last time i watched the dam busters i couldnt believe they had dubbed over it, ******, ****, jock. scouser. taffy, brit, honkey, who cares, they make it worse for banging on about it, If i was in pakistan and they called me white s--t, so be it, i dont like it MOVE,

Jimandsi
10-06-2011, 16:03
"You can go to RAF Scampton and see the dog's grave and there he is with his name, and it's an important part of the film."

I suppose someone ought to change the name on his grave then - just in case it upsets someone !

Oh, and whilst we're at it, let's take the 1877 novel, Black Beauty off our library shelves - just in case it upsets someone !

TenerifePool
10-06-2011, 16:13
Languages evolve over time and words meanings change according to popular culture. A short while ago to be gay meant that you were happy or carefree.

The word "******", during times of racial intolerance and bigotry, was used as an insulting and derogatory term and is (IMHO) as unacceptable as the "c" word.

cjd01
10-06-2011, 16:20
If the yanks dont like it - then don't watch the film!

YOUNG GOLFER
10-06-2011, 16:31
What ever next what about all the cats and dogs called Blackie or Blacky?

Jackie
10-06-2011, 16:46
...and what will we call a 'black man's pinch'???

sunspot
10-06-2011, 16:57
Its enough to make you Snigger

reggie
10-06-2011, 17:24
What ever next what about all the cats and dogs called Blackie or Blacky?

You wouldnt be cruel enough to call one ****, can you imagine in the park, shouting that, My total view on the subject is, If you dont like it p--s off, sick to death hearing what people like and what they dont like, Try that abroad, Err i dont like you calling me that, or I'm a christian, cut your bl--ding head off,

SuzyQ
10-06-2011, 18:22
****** is fashionable street talk, my sons black friend uses the word all the time. We laugh about it. He also says on a regular basis, "is it because I is black?". Funny!!

DaveRF
10-06-2011, 18:34
It's stupidity to try and blanket ban words. IMO it's not the words used but the sentiment behind them and the context in which they are used that is important.

TenerifeTeddy
10-06-2011, 19:04
This is a true story :)

In 1995 I was posted to a Communications Security Unit, where I was Head of Training. This involved giving lectures to many different units on aspects of Communications Security.

One day on a deployment with the NATO COMSEC team, consisting of Americans, Germans, Dutch, etc etc, I was asked to brief them on usage of Formation Callsigns. These are callsigns that pilots use to identify each other (everyone has seen TopGun).

Trouble is, many of these callsigns have been used by the same Squadrons for many years, so their usage can compromise Operational Security.

Anyway the example I had been using for several years of giving these lectures was "******" being the Formation Callsign of Guy Gibson of 617 Sqn Dambusters fame, and named after his dog. The callsign still being used at that time by the same Squadron 50+ years later.

Anyway, suddenly one member of the audience got up and left, but with no hint of anything being wrong, I carried on regardless.

After the lecture I was approached, by the person who had left, a white American, and asked didnīt I realise how offensive that remark was. I was genuinely puzzled, until it was pointed out to me that one of the audience was a 6ft very black African American.

I approached him later and apologised, and he was completely unfazed by it, just taking it, as it was meant - in context. But it does show you how some people can look for things to be offended at.

After that, whenever I gave the lecture I always checked the audience first, but up to that point it had never occurred to me that it could possibly offend anyone.

AL JAY
10-06-2011, 19:11
Excellent post TT and puts things into perspective!

marbro8
10-06-2011, 20:19
the thing is if you actually asked the people it refers to they say it does not bother them!! in fact they are embarrassed by all the fuss being made on their supposed behalf, and does it mean that we can not refer to the american black group NWA as niggers with attitude anymore? or should we say not with abbreviations???

with cheese
10-06-2011, 20:32
I have been to many countries where I have been stared at because of my colour (white), where I have been called names and where I have had death threats.
Why is it all other races can say what they like to us but we are really bad if we say anything.
I am not racist despite what people may think, I have some very good black and Banghi friends, some Korean colleagues and some very good eastern euro mates, but they all like a laugh over the pathetic extreme race issue that some of us whites is causing.
As for the slave trade it was created 50/50 by black and white.
The white people arrived after days at sea, no fight in them so spoke to a chief of a tribe about some slaves, he then started a fight with another village, and handed over the slaves from that village. In my book that is equal blame.
We are stupid now for allowing these cultures to form ghettos and colonies in our country and then allowing them to change our laws to suit. To bloody well suit who, not us that are the nationals.
Fine if that is the way it is then it should also be in the countries they come from.
This is not a rant merely a point of view and I sure most of these people are great in their own countries but Pakistani's in particular have done nothing to fit in.

9PLUS
10-06-2011, 20:37
I've spoken to a few different races about this PC lark over the years and in general they say it doesn't really bother them, depending on the context


Thats a blackboard (not insulting its the colour of the board)

Pakistani (not insulting but why would you have to mention it to someones face?)

Oi **** (insulting)

Oi you ****ing ****** (insulting)

The Black sheep of the family (any educated person wouldn't get upset over that)

It's PC crap...................innit

with cheese
10-06-2011, 20:45
Limey
Honkey
white trash
Soft southerner
English ****
Chalk board
British Bulldog
English Poof.

Bothered nah.

Jimandsi
10-06-2011, 21:37
Limey
Honkey
white trash
Soft southerner
English ****
Chalk board
British Bulldog
English Poof.

Bothered nah.

Brummie even :crylaughing:

with cheese
10-06-2011, 22:32
Just to clarify in my earlier post when I wrote "pathetic extreme race issue that some of us whites is causing.", I meant the do gooders.
If it was dealt with if and when there is an issue no problem but keep stirring up by saying this is wrong and that is wrong.
Most of the kids of today know exactly what they can get away with in the law because do gooders have fed them.

I saw a march in Brighton recently where a white British woman in a typical Muslim outfit, minus the back to front balaclava, was protesting for human rights for terrorist captives.
OK we should all have a right to protest, mind you should a capture terrorist have rights, nah, the issue here was she had 2 kids in tribal dress with her. These kids were young and carrying placards and because one of them was flagging and not holding hers upright she smacked him.
So its alright to protect a terrorist but yer kids don't have a right to be knackered. Blox innit

marbro8
10-06-2011, 22:40
Brummie even :crylaughing:you just had to didn't you:surrender:

timmylish
10-06-2011, 23:00
Like the O/p I read this on the BBC website this mowning and tbh burst out laughing because that is how it should and could be dealt with. As one or two people have already said the actual affected do not give a monkey,s (ooooooooooppppppppppppppssssssssssss just started something now!). When working in the USA many years ago I worked and socialised (even dated one or two) with many, who might now be referred to as BAA,s. The very first and last time I used the term "coloured" I was very swiftly brought right down to earth and told. If talking about someone,s ethnicity it had to be white, black or mixed. Initially, being naively British, I was confused since I had been subjected to years of misinformation in the UK and generally by doo-gooder,s.
This is a film dramatised to include reference to a wonderful Black Labrador whose name happened to be ******. No-one and I mean no-one has the right to alter that fact! It is a fact that his name was ****** so again are we being asked to change history to appease people who just don,t understand. They are illiterate to the facts. If there would be one person in the audience who was not aware of the facts then perhaps a prologue could be inserted but his name cannot be altered as otherwise the integrity of the film is compromised and the audience is being lied to! Ask yourself. What is the point of making the film if the audience know, in advance, that they are going to be lied to?

marbro8
10-06-2011, 23:26
i was an apprentice to a jamaican guy who i thought of as my second dad, and on the first day we where introduced he told me to never refer to him as coloured because he was black and proud of it, we were in a pub the one day having a drink and someone passed comment along the lines of "you f***in black ba****d " we were just on our way out after he had brought a bottle of dayla coke and because he had not taken any notice the pr**k called him a monkey and followed us out, well unknown to the guy that was throwing the insults my mate cecil was a black belt 5th dan and when they got outside cecil turned round hit the guy over the head with the bottle of coke and jumped on top of him!!! and he said to the by now very frightened bloke "you can call me black because i am, and proud of it" and you can also call me a ba****d because my mother and farther never married"," but no one has the right to call me a monkey" then he just got up and walked away, i must say as a young lad of 17 i had taken a few liberties with him over the 12 months i had been with him but after that i gave him a little more respect:whistle:

Andy0210
11-06-2011, 01:39
When working in the USA many years ago I worked and socialised (even dated one or two) with many, who might now be referred to as BAA,s.

You never told me you was a Shepherd ???

I thought you was Scottish not Welsh :confused: ;)

timmylish
11-06-2011, 01:44
Stop bleetin'.
Whit kinda' sheep you get in Blackburn anyway? .haggers?

Andy0210
11-06-2011, 01:56
Stop bleetin'.
Whit kinda' sheep you get in Blackburn anyway? .haggers?

And again in English please? ???

See you in the morning Mr Lish! ;)

KirstyJay
11-06-2011, 01:58
The word **** will never go away, its part of british culture now, nip to the **** shop etc, Last time i watched the dam busters i couldnt believe they had dubbed over it, ******, ****, jock. scouser. taffy, brit, honkey, who cares, they make it worse for banging on about it, If i was in pakistan and they called me white s--t, so be it, i dont like it MOVE,I find **** and ****** offensive and consider anyone that uses them to be racist, as I think there are other words that can be used to make the same point.

As a white person that believes that the UK is too PC, I still find these terms offensive and when people use them, it says to me that they are either racist or too unintelligent to think of something less offensive to describe whom or what they mean.


Just to clarify in my earlier post when I wrote "pathetic extreme race issue that some of us whites is causing.",You should have said whites are causing, as to say whites would be plural and the plural of the verb 'to be' is 'are'

timmylish
11-06-2011, 02:06
I find **** and ****** offensive and consider anyone that uses them to be racist, as I think there are other words that can be used to make the same point.

As a white person that believes that the UK is too PC, I still find these terms offensive and when people use them, it says to me that they are either racist or too unintelligent to think of something less offensive to describe whom or what they mean.

I think you miss the point here. The dog was called ******-fact. The film in question is supposed to dramatise a factual event-fact. Changing the name to Digger-factually incorrect.

KirstyJay
11-06-2011, 02:09
I think you miss the point here. The dog was called ******-fact. The film in question is supposed to dramatise a factual event-fact. Changing the name to Digger-factually incorrect.The post I quoted, which you neglected to quote when replying to my post, was not making that same point... ;) :)

timmylish
11-06-2011, 02:28
Well that,s lost me-fact.
I remain of the same opinion in regard to the original thread title "******,s name is going to be changed". Changing the dog,s name for the sake of a film is totally wrong no matter some white people,s ludicrous view on the subject.

KirstyJay
11-06-2011, 02:30
Well that,s lost me-fact.
I remain of the same opinion in regard to the original thread title "******,s name is going to be changed". Changing the dog,s name for the sake of a film is totally wrong no matter some white people,s ludicrous view on the subject.I agree, but the post I replied to was not referring to that, hence why I quoted it.

When I was young, **** was used as an insult and referred to anyone with brown skin, regardless of where they came from and that still rings the same in its use in English language in my ears. It soulds like an insult to people based on the amount of melanin in their skin rather than their origin or religion. To call a Bangladeshi a '****' would be a massive insult, yet someone may do it just based on the fact that they see a brown person. That's what offends me.

with cheese
11-06-2011, 07:06
I find **** and ****** offensive and consider anyone that uses them to be racist, as I think there are other words that can be used to make the same point.

As a white person that believes that the UK is too PC, I still find these terms offensive and when people use them, it says to me that they are either racist or too unintelligent to think of something less offensive to describe whom or what they mean.

You should have said whites are causing, as to say whites would be plural and the plural of the verb 'to be' is 'are'
I think you need a street wise lesson, the correct term amongst the said people we are referring to is "Whites is".
As far as **** is concerned it is just a shortened version of Pakistani. I do not consider **** or ****** t be wrong or offensive, I work with 3 black guys who refer to each other as niggers.
You are entitled to your opinion and me mine.
Like you find this offensive if I was Dyslexic I would find you correcting me, extremely offensive.
I would have PM'd this to you but obviously I can't so it is on an open forum.

KirstyJay
11-06-2011, 10:28
Well, the correction was not mentioned in a derogatory fashion, so I'm sorry you took it that way. It wasn't even written that way. I teach English, so I'm not really interested in the street versions of the English language, as it is also my personal opinion that street language is what's making it so hard for children to read and write in their native language these days. The level of English among the English is a lot lower than it used to be.

I doubt a dyslexic would find my comments derogatory either, as dyslexics make spelling, not grammatical mistakes. This is due to how their brains recognise the patterns of letters on a page and can also be brought about by aural issues too, interestingly enough. Some dyslexics find it difficult to differentiate between the different phonetic sounds of letters, therefore find it hard to understand which letter to use in a word.

I attended a seminar on Dyslexia a couple of years ago in Los Cristianos as part of my training. If you would like more information on it, here is a good website. http://training.dyslexiaaction.org.uk/whatisdyslexia

However... this is getting a little off topic.

With regards to '****', your comments just reinforced my point. You said it is used as a shortened version of Pakistani, yet would you ask a person if they were, in fact, from Pakistan before using it, or would you use it regardless, just because they have darker skin?

I find that use of the word offensive. That is my personal opinion and as you said, I am entitled to it. That's all. No point or offence intended :)

Chris P. Bacon
11-06-2011, 10:40
Well, the correction was not mentioned in a derogatory fashion, so I'm sorry you took it that way. It wasn't even written that way. I teach English, so I'm not really interested in the street versions of the English language, as it is also my personal opinion that street language is what's making it so hard for children to read and write in their native language these days. The level of English among the English is a lot lower than it used to be.

I doubt a dyslexic would find my comments derogatory either, as dyslexics make spelling, not grammatical mistakes. This is due to how their brains recognise the patterns of letters on a page and can also be brought about by aural issues too, interestingly enough. Some dyslexics find it difficult to differentiate between the different phonetic sounds of letters, therefore find it hard to understand which letter to use in a word.

I attended a seminar on Dyslexia a couple of years ago in Los Cristianos as part of my training. If you would like more information on it, here is a good website. http://training.dyslexiaaction.org.uk/whatisdyslexia

However... this is getting a little off topic.

With regards to '****', your comments just reinforced my point. You said it is used as a shortened version of Pakistani, yet would you ask a person if they were, in fact, from Pakistan before using it, or would you use it regardless, just because they have darker skin?

I find that use of the word offensive. That is my personal opinion and as you said, I am entitled to it. That's all. No point or offence intended :)

This whole post if off topic! can someone please remove it to the off topic thread? This thread is about "******" :typing::crazy:

with cheese
11-06-2011, 10:44
Well, the correction was not mentioned in a derogatory fashion, so I'm sorry you took it that way. It wasn't even written that way. I teach English, so I'm not really interested in the street versions of the English language, as it is also my personal opinion that street language is what's making it so hard for children to read and write in their native language these days. The level of English among the English is a lot lower than it used to be.

I doubt a dyslexic would find my comments derogatory either, as dyslexics make spelling, not grammatical mistakes. This is due to how their brains recognise the patterns of letters on a page and can also be brought about by aural issues too, interestingly enough. Some dyslexics find it difficult to differentiate between the different phonetic sounds of letters, therefore find it hard to understand which letter to use in a word.

I attended a seminar on Dyslexia a couple of years ago in Los Cristianos as part of my training. If you would like more information on it, here is a good website. http://training.dyslexiaaction.org.uk/whatisdyslexia

However... this is getting a little off topic.

With regards to '****', your comments just reinforced my point. You said it is used as a shortened version of Pakistani, yet would you ask a person if they were, in fact, from Pakistan before using it, or would you use it regardless, just because they have darker skin?

I find that use of the word offensive. That is my personal opinion and as you said, I am entitled to it. That's all. No point or offence intended :)In all due respect dyslexic people do find it offensive as i have just shown it too my wife and eldest son who are both dyslexic. They do make grammatical errors and even if they didnt you still have no right to pull people up. On topic all i was saying is we have made this situation so that we cant do a damn thing but we can get done for using a term the culture uses itself.

Zara
11-06-2011, 12:11
A relative (who is white but is naturally dark skinned) spent many years in the navy where he acquired the the nick-name ******. He has had the name for years, in fact I don't even know his real name as everyone calls him ******. So based on the fact that some people find it offensive does this mean he has to change his name?

By the same token that the dog's name should be changed in the Dam Busters, will all westerns now change the name of Indians to Indigenous peoples of America

Another consideration, is it only white people that can be racist? I understand that at one time when whites were statistically the majority in the UK it could have been seen that way if they made derogatory comments however that is no longer the case so what happens if I try to pull the racist card when I am called a white *******? Will I get the same consideration as a coloured person?

Finally, A few years ago a neighbour went for a job in Asda they were turned down because they could read, write and were white. When questioned the reply that came back was we have to employ a certain percentage of ethnic people whether they are suitable or not because otherwise we can be seen as being biased - so where is the sense in that?

howard thornton
11-06-2011, 12:43
This whole post if off topic! can someone please remove it to the off topic thread? This thread is about "******" :typing::crazy: hey, do as i say not as i do . lol

onelegnofeet
11-06-2011, 13:08
Well ,thats me off out tonight for a drink ,with my dear school friend who runs a security /door staff company ......now before someone presses the OT button ,he is a Black guy (i should put Fantastic black guy ) who is a life long friend ,I have just mentioned this thread ,and for him the dogs name holds no problems as does the word being used ,depending on its context .He then laughed ,it sprung to mind one of our other friends Cyril "Blackie " Bird who works for him ,i have known Blackie some 50 odd years never heard him callecd Cyril !!
I have told before so shall avoid going into it all again but the black community both young and old alike have adopted the "N" word this was done to soften its useage ..............
And those that shout racism / bigots /and what about ethnic minorities ?? ..........how many of the finger pointers havent called an Auburn haired person "GINGER" yet dont think its offensive/rude /racist ???..........not to me cos mines African Sunset

Poor spelling ,use of wrong words ,punctuation comes from leaving school at fourteen and a half to go into the real world :sailor::(;););)

Apollo
11-06-2011, 13:12
I find **** and ****** offensive



But why do YOU find it offensive??
You are neither black, asian, chinese etc etc...you are white.

If a black person has no problems with the term then what on earth are you having problems with it for???

onelegnofeet
11-06-2011, 13:17
Forgot to say .......Another great debating thread Jimbo ,and i for one say keep it up !!! Bet this ends up in OT

with cheese
11-06-2011, 13:31
But why do YOU find it offensive??
You are neither black, asian, chinese etc etc...you are white.

If a black person has no problems with the term then what on earth are you having problems with it for???

Shut it HONKY

reggie
11-06-2011, 13:55
PC = Posh Crap,

howard thornton
11-06-2011, 14:27
PC = Posh Crap,

hey reggie the germans have invaded, on there way down the leeds and liverpool canal,i saw them this morning at botany bay. photo sent.

with cheese
11-06-2011, 14:28
Are they German Krauts, or ar we not allowed to say that, but they are white.

ddoyle
11-06-2011, 14:34
Does this mean we can no longer refer to the Irish Guards as the Micks.?

howard thornton
11-06-2011, 14:35
Are they German Krauts, or ar we not allowed to say that, but they are white. name, ht rank private, number 60811377655.

reggie
11-06-2011, 14:38
name, ht rank private, number 60811377655.

Dont tell them Pike

onelegnofeet
11-06-2011, 14:38
name, ht rank private, number 60811377655.

Rank Private Parts .....................................small very small ,but it is cooler today

howard thornton
11-06-2011, 14:48
Rank Private Parts .....................................small very small ,but it is cooler today

oh no another bloody peeper. lol.

Zara
11-06-2011, 17:15
Well ,thats me off out tonight for a drink ,with my dear school friend who runs a security /door staff company ......now before someone presses the OT button ,he is a Black guy (i should put Fantastic black guy ) who is a life long friend ,I have just mentioned this thread ,and for him the dogs name holds no problems as does the word being used ,depending on its context .He then laughed ,it sprung to mind one of our other friends Cyril "Blackie " Bird who works for him ,i have known Blackie some 50 odd years never heard him callecd Cyril !!
I have told before so shall avoid going into it all again but the black community both young and old alike have adopted the "N" word this was done to soften its useage ..............
And those that shout racism / bigots /and what about ethnic minorities ?? ..........how many of the finger pointers havent called an Auburn haired person "GINGER" yet dont think its offensive/rude /racist ???..........not to me cos mines African Sunset

Poor spelling ,use of wrong words ,punctuation comes from leaving school at fourteen and a half to go into the real world :sailor::(;););)

My daughter has beautiful red hair and we all know what GINGER is an anagram of so is that racial prejudice or just tough as she is white?

DaveRF
11-06-2011, 17:51
Someone above mentioned folks taking offence on other people's behalf and to me that is what is at the heart of the PC problem. You rarely hear of objections from the people who might or could take umbridge at the use of words.

It's no secret I'm gay, not an issue with me or anyone who is my mate. I don't take offence at terms used such as poof queen etc. I'm the first to tell jokes using those terms. I do get annoyed with people who feel they have to be careful about telling jokes like that in front of me. When I had not been long in my current job a few of us were in the rest room at lunch time letting off steam and telling a few jokes. Some of which were gay jokes. Later the manager took me aside apologising for what some had said and asked if I was OK about it all. I was really annoyed that she thought she had to do that. I explained that to me it showed folks knew I was totally comfortable with them being themselves and that I would hate for anyone to have to think about what they said because I was around. To me this is a perfect example of someone taking offence on another's behalf and it could have turned a non issue into a situation. If anything had been said to other parties by the manager about this then discontent would probably have become an issue and it would have been my fault in their eyes. I would probably detect their change in attitude and no longer see any banter as friendly or harmless. On a much bigger scale this is exactly what has happened with all the PC crap. People going over the top on behalf of other people has created a situation which they thought they were trying to stop happening.

Now if someone comes up to me saying "you ****ing puff" and the intent and voice tones are not friendly and that's a different matter altogether. They'll find out some puffs aren't soft ****es :eyebrows:

with cheese
11-06-2011, 18:00
Someone above mentioned folks taking offence on other people's behalf and to me that is what is at the heart of the PC problem. You rarely hear of objections from the people who might or could take umbridge at the use of words.

It's no secret I'm gay, not an issue with me or anyone who is my mate. I don't take offence at terms used such as poof queen etc. I'm the first to tell jokes using those terms. I do get annoyed with people who feel they have to be careful about telling jokes like that in front of me. When I had not been long in my current job a few of us were in the rest room at lunch time letting off steam and telling a few jokes. Some of which were gay jokes. Later the manager took me aside apologising for what some had said and asked if I was OK about it all. I was really annoyed that she thought she had to do that. I explained that to me it showed folks knew I was totally comfortable with them being themselves and that I would hate for anyone to have to think about what they said because I was around. To me this is a perfect example of someone taking offence on another's behalf and it could have turned a non issue into a situation. If anything had been said to other parties by the manager about this then discontent would probably have become an issue and it would have been my fault in their eyes. I would probably detect their change in attitude and no longer see any banter as friendly or harmless. On a much bigger scale this is exactly what has happened with all the PC crap. People going over the top on behalf of other people has created a situation which they thought they were trying to stop happening.

Now if someone comes up to me saying "you ****ing puff" and the intent and voice tones are not friendly and that's a different matter altogether. They'll find out some puffs aren't soft ****es :eyebrows:
Dave I hope the blocked out word is not a*ses. lol

DaveRF
11-06-2011, 18:01
Dave I hope the blocked out word is not a*ses. lol

LMAO - no it begins with SH :eyebrows:

with cheese
11-06-2011, 18:06
LMAO - no it begins with SH :eyebrows:
Soft ass then lmao, that ain't good for you mate, thats like a bird with thrush.

Jimandsi
11-06-2011, 20:16
That's it then.

I'm going to contact Stephen Fry, who is writing the screenplay and suggest that they don't have a Black Labrador in the film at all.

Much better to have a West Highland White Terrier called Chalkie. :dog:

howard thornton
11-06-2011, 20:18
That's it then.

I'm going to contact Stephen Fry, who is writing the screenplay and suggest that they don't have a Black Labrador in the film at all.

Much better to have a West Highland White Terrier called Chalkie. :dog: what a good idea.

with cheese
11-06-2011, 20:41
Or an English Bull Terrier called ugly white *******.

Jimandsi
11-06-2011, 21:08
Tribute to ****** .....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgePEO7GUtE

reggie
11-06-2011, 21:11
That's it then.

I'm going to contact Stephen Fry, who is writing the screenplay and suggest that they don't have a Black Labrador in the film at all.

Much better to have a West Highland White Terrier called Chalkie. :dog:

Stephen Fry is just the sort that would go PC with something, thinking he will get some brownie points, Did i hear he was thinking about suicide, may i help with that, Love the way he plays the upper class english man, Then decides he will change something very english, The dam busters for crying out loud. ****

howard thornton
11-06-2011, 21:19
Tribute to ****** .....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgePEO7GUtE

thanks jimbo,had me in tears, poor old ******.

9PLUS
12-06-2011, 12:36
You know the dog was never called ****** it was a TV show made in the time went the British thought they were the nuts

It was unconsiderate times where minorities were the butt of many and most jokes.

It's racist and if theres a new film out i support the changing of the name.

Jimandsi
12-06-2011, 12:42
Once again though .....

Please watch this short clip and tell me why the Yanks should be so offended by some of our true wartime history.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgePEO7GUtE

And why didn't they find it offensive sixty odd years ago ?

9PLUS
12-06-2011, 12:46
And why didn't they find it offensive sixty odd years ago ?



They did find it offensive, they just never had a voice

Jimandsi
12-06-2011, 12:49
They did find it offensive, they just never had a voice

So you'll be able to back that up with a wwwlink of some sort then ?

9PLUS
12-06-2011, 12:58
Lets not get c0cky Jim i dont have to justify it

You know dame well ****** is offensive, would you like a wwwlink to justify what niggers used to think of the whites when we used to kill them?

marbro8
12-06-2011, 13:00
Now if someone comes up to me saying "you ****ing puff" and the intent and voice tones are not friendly and that's a different matter altogether. They'll find out some puffs aren't soft ****es :eyebrows:[/QUOTE]to true, i wouldn't like to take a slap off that richard fairbrass!!!!:eyebrows:

Jimandsi
12-06-2011, 13:05
Lets not get c0cky Jim i dont have to justify it

You know dame well ****** is offensive, would you like a wwwlink to justify what niggers used to think of the whites when we used to kill them?

Don't agree with you one little bit.

To call a dog ****** 60 odd years ago wasn't offensive.

That's history.

This new film is about THAT piece of OUR history.

If the Yanks don't like it - then tough.

9PLUS
12-06-2011, 13:10
Jimandbi didn't know the uses of the word ****** was offensive 60 years ago OMG what a minority


I wonder how many minorities watched TV back then Jim?

with cheese
12-06-2011, 13:16
Jimandbi didn't know the uses of the word ****** was offensive 60 years ago OMG what a minority


I wonder how many minorities watched TV back then Jim?

9PLUS, are you a SPARKIE? Sorry that may be offensive, maybe not yet but in 2071. Poppycock.
don't agree with slave trade but to be honest a lot of the minority groups would be a lot worse off today if it wasn't for previous history. This is life, deal with it same as we have to deal with the way we are slaves now to the muslim world.

timmylish
12-06-2011, 15:00
I still cannot get my head around the following;-
at the time of this historical event was the dog called "******" or not? If the answer to that question is "yes" then why is fact being erased. Its exactly the same with the Americans changing historical facts of other events during WW 11.

Sundowner
12-06-2011, 15:43
][B][U][B]You know the dog was never called ******.........]it was a TV show made in the time went the British thought they were the nuts

It was unconsiderate times where minorities were the butt of many and most jokes.

It's racist and if theres a new film out i support the changing of the name.

I think ****** might disagree...............http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:RAF_Scampton_022.jpg

Jimandsi
12-06-2011, 19:32
They probably won't be able to say the word "Nazi" in the new film either because that will upset the Germans !

Jackie
12-06-2011, 19:35
They probably won't be able to say the word "Nazi" in the new film either because that will upset the Germans !

Is just mentioning the war not going to upset the Germans ;)

with cheese
12-06-2011, 19:35
Still call us Limey's though as we are the laughing stock of the world and have no recall, because of do gooders.

9PLUS
12-06-2011, 20:08
Still call us Limey's though as we are the laughing stock of the world and have no recall, because of do gooders.



We,re traveling on a completely different subject there with cheese

with cheese
12-06-2011, 20:20
Its just that the debate has widened 9p

9PLUS
12-06-2011, 20:40
Its just that the debate has widened 9p



gone off topic more like

Jimandsi
12-06-2011, 20:47
gone off topic more like

I'm confident that the mods will take care of the O/T posts ;)

howard thornton
12-06-2011, 20:50
gone off topic more like

ban him. lol

9PLUS
12-06-2011, 20:54
is it a witch hunt or just one of those nice catholic parties?

reggie
12-06-2011, 20:55
ban him. lol

Yeh ban him, can you say electrician ?

howard thornton
12-06-2011, 20:59
Yeh ban him, can you say electrician ?

only with my teeth in.

with cheese
12-06-2011, 21:01
Sparkie...............If he gets badly electrocuted would it be ok to say he was charred.

reggie
12-06-2011, 21:05
only with my teeth in.

Get some implants howard, say what you like then, except ******

howard thornton
12-06-2011, 21:11
Get some implants howard, say what you like then, except ******

nah , i can say that without teeth,but i promise not to say ****** ever again on here, some folk don't like it.

with cheese
12-06-2011, 21:17
Come on chaps, you can't keep saying ******.

reggie
12-06-2011, 21:18
nah , i can say that without teeth,but i promise not to say ****** ever again on here, some folk don't like it.

What !! stephen fry's on here ?

howard thornton
12-06-2011, 21:22
Come on chaps, you can't keep saying ******.

i only mentioned the word to stay on topic,as it is related to the thread. lol

with cheese
12-06-2011, 21:24
My Labrador is of the colour that is not golden or of the variety that Howard's family are famous for, is called ALFIE. Do you think it would be okay for him to be in a remake of the film or should I his name to Michael Caine?
Not a lot of people will know the answer.

howard thornton
12-06-2011, 21:24
What !! stephen fry's on here ?

he is for sure, not using his proper name of course,like most others on here.

with cheese
12-06-2011, 21:24
My Labrador is of the colour that is not golden or of the variety that Howard's family are famous for, is called ALFIE. Do you think it would be okay for him to be in a remake of the film or should I change his name to Michael Caine?
Not a lot of people will know the answer.

howard thornton
12-06-2011, 21:29
My Labrador is of the colour that is not golden or of the variety that Howard's family are famous for, is called ALFIE. Do you think it would be okay for him to be in a remake of the film or should I his name to Michael Caine?
Not a lot of people will know the answer.

not golden,not chocolate,mmmmmm,give us a clue.

reggie
12-06-2011, 21:29
My Labrador is of the colour that is not golden or of the variety that Howard's family are famous for, is called ALFIE. Do you think it would be okay for him to be in a remake of the film or should I his name to Michael Caine?
Not a lot of people will know the answer.

Nobody move, i have a plan

howard thornton
12-06-2011, 21:31
Nobody move, i have a plan

i hope its not one of your cunning stunts.

reggie
12-06-2011, 21:31
I knew a labrador called roger once, not a lot of people know that,

with cheese
12-06-2011, 21:31
It begins with B and sounds like crack.


I knew a labrador called roger once, not a lot of people know that,
You Rodgered a Labrador once, more like.
I knew a Rabbit called Roger.

Added after 2 minutes:

Blow her bloody draws off

reggie
12-06-2011, 21:34
I also knew a mongrel called brian,

with cheese
12-06-2011, 21:39
I also knew a mongrel called brian,
Was he a crossbred snail?