Is the UK too PC?

[KirstyJay]

During this past year, having a Comenius project in my school with a UK partner, I have to say that the rules in UK schools these days are incredibly prohibitive.

What do others think of UK lawas these days? Non-racist or race specific comments below :D

For example, we have been told that for an exchange, the UK children can no longer say with host families. When I went on an exchange at school, we stayed with the exchange familes, now we have to find hostels for the kids.

[with cheese]

LAWAS, is this a new word I can't find it in my dictionary.
The reason of staying with host families has nothing to do with PC, so off thread.
It is because the families have not been CRB checked. If one of your children stayed with a family and was then sexually abused would you be ok about it, no.
Teachers these days are teaching wrong in the first place. a b c is a b c, not some stupid sounds, no wonder so many can't read and write.

Added after 5 Hours 25 minutes:

No answers eh.

[Zara]

As you have mentioned CRB checks - do teachers have to have these? I know that volunteers or non-teaching staff that have unsupervised contact with children have them but what about people like the Bristol teacher who abused children in his care? and if not, why not just because teachers are supposedly better educated that some does not mean they are better people.

[with cheese]

Yes anyone working with kids in the UK, mind you perhaps not in the Canaries.
He managed to get past it somehow, probably false address as the system is crap.

[Jimandsi]

Looking at some of the parents nowadays, I think I'd rather have my child stay in a hostel for an exchange visit.

[with cheese]

Besides your kids may get put with a family of a different race and be called HONKY.

[Jackie]

Actually this is really sad. When I was at school we always had exchange students coming and staying with various families, and the kids whose families they stayed with would go and stay with the exchange students family at the same time.

One of my neighbours here went to the UK for three weeks as part of her English class. It was for them to practice and improve their English and although she speaks very good English now because she pretty much lives in my house lol she said she did not learn very much while in the UK because they did not stay with a family but with their group leader in a hostel so could not practice as much as she would have liked. She also said that when they were out and about a lot of people were very rude to them because they were just a large group of Canarians, whereas perhaps if they had all stayed and gone out with British families they may have been treated a lot differently.

Is it so hard for them to get CRB checks done on various families that are prepared to take these people into their homes?

[with cheese]

You can get CRB's done very cheaply by joining an umbrella group, thing is it takes about 8 weeks. You may not get the right one back, truth, mine came back and it was a guy with a police record and the same name. He lived in the North West me in SE, so that means he was sent a clean one. It was corrected and fortunately his, or mine as it turned out had not left the building.

[warbey]

As I understand it, C,R,B Checks are made on Anyone who has anything to do with
members of the Public on a one to one basis.
It certainly applies with Council Homes and various Places...

Children are but a portion of these arrangements many things have changed, in fact,
Cameras are frowned upon or barred at many Schools, particularly with Younger Children.
As they can be vulnerable so be it. Some however go too far spoiling normal Life in some cases.

As a Person who lived before (I think) this madness creptin, common sense is sometimes through the Window,
because a persom in Authority passes the Buck, so collectively We all suffer,,!!

Perhaps the rules referref to apply to Younger Kids.
Secondary Pupils wernt restricted to that extent a couple of Years ago in My Area. I had first Hand knowledge.

[Mawkin]

After just retiring my wife after having worked in the nursing profession for over thirty years and being enhanced CRB checked decided to do some volunteering work at our local hospital and now has to wait again for the check to come back again before she can do anything. Unfortunately we will have flown away from the UK in the meantime so it will be a complete waste of time so much for the "Big Society ". If we come back we have been informed she will have to go through the check again so that soon brought a end of her thoughts of volunteering.

[with cheese]

CRB's Warbs can be obtained by anyone who so wishes over 16 years of age. All my family are CRB checked as are some of my friends that use our home or holiday with us. I explain the need to them and they are all fine about it.
Just because someone has a police record it does not make them a paedo, it has to be something that could be of poor consequence to a child, drugs, porn, abuse, gbh etc.

[warbey]

CRB's Warbs can be obtained by anyone who so wishes over 16 years of age. All my family are CRB checked as are some of my friends that use our home or holiday with us. I explain the need to them and they are all fine about it.
Just because someone has a police record it does not make them a paedo, it has to be something that could be of poor consequence to a child, drugs, porn, abuse, gbh etc.

Thats the whole Point. We are in a Society where We have to prove Ourselves innocent, and I agree with Kirsty over much of this.
Teachers are rechecked every three Years, so Children hopefully are safe from Adult harm.
I was checked as I had a position which required a Check to perform My Function with Children Old or Handicapped People.
No problem either.
The trouble is that Lots are on the Bandwaggon and make a check compulsary. Anyone in contact with the Public is Eligeable.
.
Recently a Schoolmaster was convicted of abusing Kids.
His conduct had been reported but no=one took the responsibility of a follow-up.
The ones who HAVENT been caught are the dangerous ones..

All the Checks in creation wont protect as well as Someone prepared to tell it as it is. Colleague or not......

[with cheese]

Thats the whole Point. We are in a Society where We have to prove Ourselves innocent, and I agree with Kirsty over much of this.
Teachers are rechecked every three Years, so Children hopefully are safe from Adult harm.
I was checked as I had a position which required a Check to perform My Function with Children Old or Handicapped People.
No problem either.
The trouble is that Lots are on the Bandwaggon and make a check compulsary. Anyone in contact with the Public is Eligeable.
.
Recently a Schoolmaster was convicted of abusing Kids.
His conduct had been reported but no=one took the responsibility of a follow-up.
The ones who HAVENT been caught are the dangerous ones..

All the Checks in creation wont protect as well as Someone prepared to tell it as it is. Colleague or not......
Kirsty didn't say teachers are checked every 3 years. We don't know what the score is in Tenerife.

[cainaries]

When I was 16 my parents arranged for me to go as an 'au pair' for a couple of months to a family in Germany. The wife was a friend of my mother's. I had a LOT of trouble with the husband and the whole experience was pretty unpleasant. No mobiles or any way of contacting my parents until a next door neighbour intervened, rang my parents and told them they had to get me out of there and home. So I can see both sides of this story.

Would also agree that arranging for the children to stay all together in a hostel will definitely water down their experience of living in another country.

[warbey]

Kirsty didn't say teachers are checked every 3 years. We don't know what the score is in Tenerife.

No that was mentioned later. Kirsty's Thread Title specifies the U.K.

[slodgedad]

No that was mentioned later. Kirsty's Thread Title specifies the U.K.

Just to remind everyone of the thread title;

* Is the UK too PC?