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marbro8
13-11-2012, 11:31
hi everyone, i have been contacted by a company called worldwidegroup.eu in relation to selling a piece of land that we purchased in Bulgaria in 2005, apparently i had asked them to market the land a while ago now? i may have done i really can't remember, we payed 18,000 euros for it and they said they would advertise it to the Russian,Chinese and Indian markets for 25,000 euros with offers being considered, they want an up front payment of £350+ vat but will give me the £500 service and if the land is sold they take a 2% commission, which of course i don't mind because thats how they make their living, and if it's sold then i get what i have paid for,the only thing i am concerned about is if it's just another marketing ploy to get money that they are not going to work for, i would happily pay more commission on the sale than the £400 up front because that gives them more incentive, i have googled them and they look legit i was wondering if anyone on here has had any dealing with them? or if someone might be able to find out more than me?,:spin:

Fivepence
13-11-2012, 12:36
Sorry, can't help M8, except to give advice you probably don't need. :sorry:
Be careful and trust no-one! :goodluck:

marbro8
13-11-2012, 12:58
Sorry, can't help M8, except to give advice you probably don't need. :sorry:
Be careful and trust no-one! :goodluck:thanks any way m8;), i know not to trust anyone, i was contacted by a solicitor in april telling me that after reading through the paper work i had sent them regardind my last few remortgage's in their opinion they had miss sold me them? the enthusiastic girl on the phone said they could guarantee to claim back at least £1000 and all they wanted was £250 one off fee to get it, well like i said it was a long established solicitors firm in manchester, so i sent the money, that was 8 months ago:confused:, no contact from them other than to see if i wanted to pay another £250 to claim back any ppi i may have been miss sold:(, after counless calls to them i am now waiting to hear from their manager (who was supposed to contact me months ago) and i am going to inform him that i now intend to get someone to reclaim the £250 they conned me out of :D that should be fun;)

Sundowner
13-11-2012, 13:14
hi everyone, i have been contacted by a company called worldwidegroup.eu in relation to selling a piece of land that we purchased in Bulgaria in 2005, apparently i had asked them to market the land a while ago now? i may have done i really can't remember, we payed 18,000 euros for it and they said they would advertise it to the Russian,Chinese and Indian markets for 25,000 euros with offers being considered, they want an up front payment of £350+ vat but will give me the £500 service and if the land is sold they take a 2% commission, which of course i don't mind because thats how they make their living, and if it's sold then i get what i have paid for,the only thing i am concerned about is if it's just another marketing ploy to get money that they are not going to work for, i would happily pay more commission on the sale than the £400 up front because that gives them more incentive, i have googled them and they look legit i was wondering if anyone on here has had any dealing with them? or if someone might be able to find out more than me?,:spin:

They seem to be based in Newry in Northern Ireland and operating under the name of Worldwide group enterprises Ltd Had a look at their "Shop" on google street view and they seem to be a bit of a Heinz 57 sort of business.
Their address is 3 Railway Ave, Monaghan st, Newry, BT35 6BA

Have a look and see what you think.........

marbro8
13-11-2012, 13:22
They seem to be based in Newry in Northern Ireland and operating under the name of Worldwide group enterprises Ltd Had a look at their "Shop" on google street view and they seem to be a bit of a Heinz 57 sort of business.
Their address is 3 Railway Ave, Monaghan st, Newry, BT35 6BA

Have a look and see what you think.........thanks for that m8 will do;)

Fivepence
13-11-2012, 13:30
They seem to be based in Newry in Northern Ireland and operating under the name of Worldwide group enterprises Ltd Had a look at their "Shop" on google street view and they seem to be a bit of a Heinz 57 sort of business.
Their address is 3 Railway Ave, Monaghan st, Newry, BT35 6BA

Have a look and see what you think.........

Link (https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Railway+Ave,+Monaghan+st,+Newry,+BT35+6BA&hl=en&ll=54.177382,-6.341922&spn=0.005017,0.008079&sll=52.8382,-2.327815&sspn=10.613487,16.54541&hq=Railway+Ave,+Monaghan+st,&hnear=Newry+BT35+6BA,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=54.177478,-6.343999&panoid=bn5ezS5MdKr-Y0z2WjGvAA&cbp=12,99.26,,0,9.92) to the address that Sundowner gave.

Not the most salubrious area to conduct your business from! :confused:

marbro8
13-11-2012, 13:33
Link (https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Railway+Ave,+Monaghan+st,+Newry,+BT35+6BA&hl=en&ll=54.177382,-6.341922&spn=0.005017,0.008079&sll=52.8382,-2.327815&sspn=10.613487,16.54541&hq=Railway+Ave,+Monaghan+st,&hnear=Newry+BT35+6BA,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=54.177478,-6.343999&panoid=bn5ezS5MdKr-Y0z2WjGvAA&cbp=12,99.26,,0,9.92) to the address that Sundowner gave.

Not the most salubrious area to conduct your business from! :confused::laugh: and god knows how long ago the photo was taken but is it my eyes? but does it look like all the windows are covered with cardboard boxes:confused: in fact i may give tan city or the IT place next door a ring and ask them if they are still trading from there:D:D

Sundowner
13-11-2012, 13:44
:laugh: and god knows how long ago the photo was taken but is it my eyes? but does it look like all the windows are covered with cardboard boxes:confused: in fact i may give tan city or the IT place next door a ring and ask them if they are still trading from there:D:D

https://www.duedil.com/company/NI070911/worldwide-group-enterprises-limited

Have a look at this report!

marbro8
13-11-2012, 14:06
https://www.duedil.com/company/NI070911/worldwide-group-enterprises-limited

Have a look at this report!:wow: thanks for that sundowner it doesn't look good does it:confused:,they are £16.500 in debt, and the director has been a director of over 730 other company's:wow: i wonder what happened to the other 729?, but they are still trading? either they are a victim of the current climate or they are just trying to get what they can before they go under:(

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https://www.duedil.com/company/NI070911/worldwide-group-enterprises-limited

Have a look at this report! you have changed your profession to now being my solicitor now sundowner:laugh:, i have just e-mailed him asking him about having Bernadette as the director and being over £100,000 in debt and he sent back "are you sure you have the right company? check with company's house we are registered N1070911" :laugh: i said my solicitor(you) has just given me the info and to check what duedil's report says about them:laugh: i owe you a few beers rumpole:bowdown:;)

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he has just e-mailed me back and said he has read the report and everything seems to be in order and what was my argument??? is it me???

Sundowner
13-11-2012, 17:06
:wow: thanks for that sundowner it doesn't look good does it:confused:,they are £16.500 in debt, and the director has been a director of over 730 other company's:wow: i wonder what happened to the other 729?, but they are still trading? either they are a victim of the current climate or they are just trying to get what they can before they go under:(

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you have changed your profession to now being my solicitor now sundowner:laugh:, i have just e-mailed him asking him about having Bernadette as the director and being over £100,000 in debt and he sent back "are you sure you have the right company? check with company's house we are registered N1070911" :laugh: i said my solicitor(you) has just given me the info and to check what duedil's report says about them:laugh: i owe you a few beers rumpole:bowdown:;)

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he has just e-mailed me back and said he has read the report and everything seems to be in order and what was my argument??? is it me???

There are a lot of people who invested in Bulgaria trying to get rid of properties/land who are trying to get out of that market now and that means there are a lot of vultures circling in the hope of a quick buck!

I would proceed with caution if I was you;)

Here is a link to an Irish guy who is selling Bulgarian properties,

http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2012/jul/16/irish-property-firesale-invetsment-bulgaria

If it was me I would choose someone like him to sell my land.

marbro8
13-11-2012, 17:26
There are a lot of people who invested in Bulgaria trying to get rid of properties/land who are trying to get out of that market now and that means there are a lot of vultures circling in the hope of a quick buck!

I would proceed with caution if I was you;)

Here is a link to an Irish guy who is selling Bulgarian properties,

http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2012/jul/16/irish-property-firesale-invetsment-bulgaria

If it was me I would choose someone like him to sell my land.thanks for that m8;), they just got back in touch with me trying to justify the company? saying it was a scam and that bernadette was only a director for 4 days lol, and then told me to check with company house but they can forget it now:laugh:

Fivepence
13-11-2012, 17:29
There are a lot of people who invested in Bulgaria trying to get rid of properties/land who are trying to get out of that market now and that means there are a lot of vultures circling in the hope of a quick buck!

I would proceed with caution if I was you;)

Here is a link to an Irish guy who is selling Bulgarian properties,

http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2012/jul/16/irish-property-firesale-invetsment-bulgaria

If it was me I would choose someone like him to sell my land.

Good advice Sundowner and he seems a good bet.

However, your sentence 'proceed with caution' is the key.
Check, double check and then check again.
Perhaps seek advice from forum members CIM and Young Golfer, as the most obvious checks can be overlooked.
I have been a member for only a short time but have been visiting and reading this forum for years, they are decent, honest men who's advice I would personally trust.

marbro8
13-11-2012, 18:07
Good advice Sundowner and he seems a good bet.

However, your sentence 'proceed with caution' is the key.
Check, double check and then check again.
Perhaps seek advice from forum members CIM and Young Golfer, as the most obvious checks can be overlooked.
I have been a member for only a short time but have been visiting and reading this forum for years, they are decent, honest men who's advice I would personally trust.yes you are spot on fivepence, i have met both andy (cim) and stewart(young golfer) and i would value both their opinions, i was hoping they would have read the thread by now :laugh:,but i have contacted the guy sundowner has given me and await his reply, because they only give info about property not land? and i will post what he says if and when they contact me;)

warbey
13-11-2012, 19:18
I would be inclined to use some of this knowledge to look at

the qualifications of the Manchester lot too.

I dont think the Law Society like Firms like that on Their Books.

chifleta
13-11-2012, 22:19
don't you just love the internet and google street view ?? :D i'm with fivepence, I don't trust anybody either.... a sad place to be, but there you go :)

marbro8
14-11-2012, 00:11
I would be inclined to use some of this knowledge to look at

the qualifications of the Manchester lot too.

I dont think the Law Society like Firms like that on Their Books.they rang me at 7.00pm full of apologies and said that it was the fault of santander for not sending the paperwork back within the stated 3 months? and said they would give the auditers a nudge tomorrow to get it speeded up lol we will see

CIM
14-11-2012, 01:11
Hi Marbro, this is me just sitting down after a long day!

I thought I recognised the name of this company. I spoke to them 2 years ago about a mortgage for a client buying in Spain. They then sent me an agreement to list my properties on their website. Seemed legit enough at the time.

At the end of the day I suppose they are trying something different and it might work, might not. What you want to know is what difference does it make if you pay upfront? Do they do more marketing? Do they make it a featured listing or do some PPC for you? Or do they do the same as they do for clients who dont pay upfront? Where´s the value add of paying upfront? If there is one then great but if there isn't then that´s that really....

If you knew them and they were down the street and you could drop in and visit then I´d suggest doing so and sussing them out from there but being as that is not the case it´s a difficult to expect people to fork out cash upfront.

KirstyJay
14-11-2012, 02:15
From the OP it sounds like a scam to me. Many so-called 'timeshare resellers' do a similar thing. Do not pay anyone upfront. If they take a commission, fine... but they should do the work first before getting any money! :D

marbro8
14-11-2012, 08:55
just an update, i received an e-mail from dylan cullen this morning and although they do not specialise in selling land he said he would be glad to try for me, and he wants me to send him the maps of where my land is situated, no mention of up front fees either;)

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Hi Marbro, this is me just sitting down after a long day!

I thought I recognised the name of this company. I spoke to them 2 years ago about a mortgage for a client buying in Spain. They then sent me an agreement to list my properties on their website. Seemed legit enough at the time.

At the end of the day I suppose they are trying something different and it might work, might not. What you want to know is what difference does it make if you pay upfront? Do they do more marketing? Do they make it a featured listing or do some PPC for you? Or do they do the same as they do for clients who dont pay upfront? Where´s the value add of paying upfront? If there is one then great but if there isn't then that´s that really....

If you knew them and they were down the street and you could drop in and visit then I´d suggest doing so and sussing them out from there but being as that is not the case it´s a difficult to expect people to fork out cash upfront.don't worry mate they ain't getting a penny out of me up front, as i said i would rather pay a larger commision after the sale,and as you said it would be great if i could take a drive down the street, but tbh i took a walk down there with google earth and it didn't look very good??? it looked like they had spent a load of money on the sign but the windows looked covered in cardboard boxe's???

Diva Lesley
04-01-2013, 09:28
There are a lot of people who invested in Bulgaria trying to get rid of properties/land who are trying to get out of that market now and that means there are a lot of vultures circling in the hope of a quick buck!

I would proceed with caution if I was you;)

Here is a link to an Irish guy who is selling Bulgarian properties,

http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2012/jul/16/irish-property-firesale-invetsment-bulgaria

If it was me I would choose someone like him to sell my land.

I'd like to say thank you to you all for this thread. It saved me so much time in researching this company,http://www.tenerifeforum.org/tenerife-forum/images/smilies/spin.gif

Fivepence
04-01-2013, 15:13
I'd like to say thank you to you all for this thread. It saved me so much time in researching this company,http://www.tenerifeforum.org/tenerife-forum/images/smilies/spin.gif

:welcome: to the forum Lesley.

marbro8
14-02-2013, 21:05
i have today been contacted by niall madden of worlwidegroup asking me to explain my comments about the company, and wanting to know why i have slandered them, i said i only posted what i had found out, in the interest of other people, but if niall feels that in am wrong then i have invited him to join this forum and put his side of the story:wink:

TOTO 99
14-02-2013, 22:01
i have today been contacted by niall madden of worlwidegroup asking me to explain my comments about the company, and wanting to know why i have slandered them, i said i only posted what i had found out, in the interest of other people, but if niall feels that in am wrong then i have invited him to join this forum and put his side of the story:wink:

Knock him out mate.....:laugh:

marbro8
14-02-2013, 22:07
Knock him out mate.....:laugh:i am willing to listen and debate the situation:tiphat:, but if all else fails :whip::lol:

Fivepence
14-02-2013, 22:29
i have today been contacted by niall madden of worlwidegroup asking me to explain my comments about the company, and wanting to know why i have slandered them, i said i only posted what i had found out, in the interest of other people, but if niall feels that in am wrong then i have invited him to join this forum and put his side of the story:wink:

I have read the posts again M8 and can't see where you could be accused of slander.
The most damming point was probably the report in linked in post #8.

He's obviously miffed :cry: but can't blame people for doing their research before dealing with them. :spin:

marbro8
14-02-2013, 22:46
cheers mate:wink: i didn't think i had said anything bad, when i extended the invitation to come on here i did warn him that there where much more intelligent people on the forum than me,so you have been nominated as my tenerife forum lawyer:wink: if you wish to take up the post there is a night out on me if you are on the isle between 14th may and 24th or october 5th to 19th, :lol: either way it would be nice to meet up:wink:

SellinginGandia
03-04-2013, 16:11
:welcome: to the forum Lesley.

I'd like to say thank you to all for this thread too. I approached the company as I found them on the internet as I'm trying to sell property in Spain. The minute I saw the upfront fee of 250, I decided that I would go no further and wrote to Niall Madden of Worldwide Group. He sent a long email saying that I ought to consider that they do not use Spanish sellers and blah blah blah - lots of other stuff. He said they would not change the upfront fee, but would only charge 3% once the house had been sold. That's quite some drop from 5%! I wrote back and told him that I have not used Spanish sellers and that the property is being advertised around the world without having to pay any upfront fee. He's just written back to say that I could pay half of the fee now and half upon the sale of the house. Wow, I don't believe he realises how desperate he's beginning to sound and surely he must realise that I'm not 100% stupid! :lol:

marbro8
03-04-2013, 17:05
I'd like to say thank you to all for this thread too. I approached the company as I found them on the internet as I'm trying to sell property in Spain. The minute I saw the upfront fee of 250, I decided that I would go no further and wrote to Niall Madden of Worldwide Group. He sent a long email saying that I ought to consider that they do not use Spanish sellers and blah blah blah - lots of other stuff. He said they would not change the upfront fee, but would only charge 3% once the house had been sold. That's quite some drop from 5%! I wrote back and told him that I have not used Spanish sellers and that the property is being advertised around the world without having to pay any upfront fee. He's just written back to say that I could pay half of the fee now and half upon the sale of the house. Wow, I don't believe he realises how desperate he's beginning to sound and surely he must realise that I'm not 100% stupid! :lol:hi sellingingandia:hi: i didn't think i was stupid but if you read trough the IS THIS A SCAM thread it may appear differently :lol:, i can't believe i did research for the sake of not wanting to pay between £250-£500 in upfront fees, and then just hand £5,000 out without asking many questions:confused:

SellinginGandia
03-04-2013, 17:12
hi sellingingandia:hi: i didn't think i was stupid but if you read trough the IS THIS A SCAM thread it may appear differently :lol:, i can't believe i did research for the sake of not wanting to pay between £250-£500 in upfront fees, and then just hand £5,000 out without asking many questions:confused:

You're not at all stupid. These people out there know that some of us need to sell quickly, and that we may overlook important things. They really are despicable. I've written back to Niall and said no thanks I don't want to pay anything upfront, and he's just asked me to keep his company in mind if the agents I am using don't manage to sell. Erm, I don't think so! We have so many difficult things to sort out, without having to deal with such scuzzbuckets (putting it mildly!) :spin:

sundownersvince
03-04-2013, 19:49
Heyup marbro8, can you send me your phone number? Back on Struggle Street I am.......:pray:

marbro8
03-04-2013, 20:42
Heyup marbro8, can you send me your phone number? Back on Struggle Street I am.......:pray:i have been burnt once;)

sundownersvince
03-04-2013, 20:58
Yep, and its pretty hot in Tenerife.......Ouch.

Diva Lesley
04-04-2013, 07:40
Hi I'm also trying to sell a property in Spain. Could you tell me who you are using to advertise your property around the world without payment up front? I'd be really grateful for some help.:tiphat:

jennywigshop
23-05-2013, 11:38
I was very impressed with the service I received from the Worldwide Group and the price I got for my property in Altinkum Turkey. Their ability to deal with the whole process from creation of advert, inspection trips, bids on my property and the legal process in completing the sale was very impressive. I just sat back and let them work away and had the money in my bank before I knew it. .

Jennifer

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I was very happy with the service i got and the professionalisim of the Staff always contactable for updates always on the phone with me to discuss offers

marigold
25-07-2013, 16:42
Saw your post, so joined the forum to reply. Retained Worldwide group to sell apartment in sofia three years ago, when a sale was nearly completed we were told the bank was claiming rights to the apartment also, even though we hold title deeds etc. WWG put us in touch with their solicitor out there, who we paid 500 euro to, to start proceedings that was three months ago and all I have had back is one txt. I am very wary of WWG and their friends. Good luck with the sale of your land

marbro8
25-07-2013, 19:35
Saw your post, so joined the forum to reply. Retained Worldwide group to sell apartment in sofia three years ago, when a sale was nearly completed we were told the bank was claiming rights to the apartment also, even though we hold title deeds etc. WWG put us in touch with their solicitor out there, who we paid 500 euro to, to start proceedings that was three months ago and all I have had back is one txt. I am very wary of WWG and their friends. Good luck with the sale of your landhi marigold, thank's for the info, i had made my mind up a long time ago not to use them, i am sorry you have had a bad experience with them but you joining the forum and telling us this will help others, the guy i was talking to at wwg actually found out that i had started this thread on here and sent me a nasty e-mail, i asked him to come on here and defend himself, but we never heard anything from him surprise surprise!!!, anyway stick around and post some more, it is always great to hear from new members, and you may enjoy it;)

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I was very impressed with the service I received from the Worldwide Group and the price I got for my property in Altinkum Turkey. Their ability to deal with the whole process from creation of advert, inspection trips, bids on my property and the legal process in completing the sale was very impressive. I just sat back and let them work away and had the money in my bank before I knew it. .

Jennifer

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I was very happy with the service i got and the professionalisim of the Staff always contactable for updates always on the phone with me to discuss offershi jennifer, it seems like you are a minority, the one and only satisfied customer of wwg:wow:, god knows what went wrong:laugh:, i am glad you had a good experience with them;)

jennywigshop
30-07-2013, 12:05
I went with them from a recommendation from a friend who also sold through them & after reading the testimonials on their sites & speaking to them personally i knew to take a chance with them as they seemed to know what they were talking about - i am sure they do not sell every single property they take on but i took the chance and for me it paid off

I have actually used their services as my friend did who put me in touch with them

azulmaria
12-06-2014, 23:40
PLEASE YOU DO NOT USE THIS COMPANY "WORLDWIDEGROUP.EU" EVER. I PAID 420 POUNDS TO ADVERTISE MY HOUSE AFTER FIVE MONTHS that I have not heard at all from them, I became suspicious. I asked my brother and a friend to contact them to arrange a view to property and they have just got an automatic reply and that was all. I took them to court now and I am waiting for my money back maybe I will not get back it but I would like to prevent others from this scam company.
Maria

CIM
12-06-2014, 23:47
Where were you trying to sell Maria?
There seem to be a lot of these types of companies around now. I think they take agents listings to populate their websites and send agents inquiries when they receive them.But if they take private ads they are not equipped to assist in viewings etc so maybe ignore them.
I´ve become rather tired of dealing with a lot of these types as they ask us to split with them on a 50/50 basis but do little more than send us an email address of an unqualified client!

azulmaria
13-06-2014, 00:07
The house is in Cantabria in small town. When I asked them if they have an agent in the area they said yes what really surprise me but obviously I believe them. I have not problem to show the house, but what it is very clear they have no one who could arrange the view or anything.
I assumed that maybe in few countries very tourist as Tenerife may have the capacity and network to sell.
For me it has been a wasting of my time and money thinking my house was on sell.
They denied to receive any email enquiry about the house, obviously I have the emails as evidence and after a month of my last false enquiry and after I informed them that I will take them to court they contact my (pretend I was a client) friend today.
I am very upset now.

CIM
13-06-2014, 00:18
I have worked with lots of "international agents" and I really do find that they are doing nothing more than trying to generate as many leads as possible. But, they just arent good leads so I am now in the process of cancelling my agreements with most of them.
When it comes to selling, there really is no substitute for a pro active agent, on the ground in the area where the property is.