Would holiday makers boycott Tenerife to support Gibraltar?

[marbro8]

i was just reading in my local paper that a black country peer, lord dennis turner, has said all british holiday makers should boycott spain over the €50 fee the spanish covernment are talking about imposing on anyone entering gibraltar, and in general the way they seem to be making it difficult for holiday makers to cross the border by taking longer to search vehicles, causing long tailbacks, i was wondering if any forum members would take patriotism that far? it's funny really because i don't really see tenerife as being spanish:laugh:, i know it is but some of the local islanders i have spoken to don't really like being under spanish rule:dontknow:

[YOUNG GOLFER]

Here we go this should go on for a few days lol

[Malteser Monkey]

i was just reading in my local paper that a black country peer, lord dennis turner, has said all british holiday makers should boycott spain over the €50 fee the spanish covernment are talking about imposing on anyone entering gibraltar, and in general the way they seem to be making it difficult for holiday makers to cross the border by taking longer to search vehicles, causing long tailbacks, i was wondering if any forum members would take patriotism that far? it's funny really because i don't really see tenerife as being spanish:laugh:, i know it is but some of the local islanders i have spoken to don't really like being under spanish rule:dontknow:

Have never thought of the Islanders as Spanish they are Canarian !

If anything they are more like South American's/Venezuelans. (I hope that isn't taken the wrong way)

I can listen to Spanish people talk and I can't really understand them just some words - however I listen to a radio station in South America and understand much more just like Canarian radio

[Angusjim]

i was just reading in my local paper that a black country peer, lord dennis turner, has said all british holiday makers should boycott spain over the €50 fee the spanish covernment are talking about imposing on anyone entering gibraltar, and in general the way they seem to be making it difficult for holiday makers to cross the border by taking longer to search vehicles, causing long tailbacks, i was wondering if any forum members would take patriotism that far? it's funny really because i don't really see tenerife as being spanish:laugh:, i know it is but some of the local islanders i have spoken to don't really like being under spanish rule:dontknow:

Why not just put say a £20 fee to all passengers on flights to Spain from UK sorted.:smackbutt:

[doncarlos]

I think you wanted to say Black Country peer.

[tracy hampshire]

it s laughable really , what will the spanish government think of next, this should put the cat amongst the pidgeons in europe x

[marbro8]

I think you wanted to say Black Country peer.i did???......

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it s laughable really , what will the spanish government think of next, this should put the cat amongst the pidgeons in europe x our government think that it is just saber rattling to take the heat off the fact that the spanish economy is in such a bad way:dontknow:

[casabonny]

I don't think it's such a bad thing, perhaps it will encourage more people to come here rather than to the mainland!he he....

[warbey]

Why not just put say a £20 fee to all passengers on flights to Spain from UK sorted.:smackbutt:

The Duty, including Carbon issues, already exists

Don't know how much, but strongly suspect it's more thah that..


As usual, with most disputes, Joe Public suffers.

As We are all E.U. (through the Back Door) it's obvious Who should sort it.

[Angusjim]

The existing Duty, including Carbon issues, already exists

Don't know how much, but strongly suspect it's more thah that..


As usual, with most disputes, Joe Public suffers.

As We are all E.U. (through the Back Door) it's obvious Who should sort it.

But I mean only for Spanish including the Canaries flights :tiphat:

[Goldenmaniac]

It was a knee jerk reaction to the "placing" of the big barrier concrete blocks in the sea off Algeciras - the delays apparently stopped a few days later, according to the FO anyway - I don't know anyone there to ask :)
The EU have been lobbied from both sides apparently http://newsinthesun.com/rocky-times-on-the-rock/

Interesting that the Malvinas :) have chosen to start sabre rattling at the same time......

[LUCKY]

Boycott yes i will hopefully be Boycotting twice this year:flatcap:

[amanda]

my husband nor his family sound like south americans they are chichareros pure

[marbro8]

It was a knee jerk reaction to the "placing" of the big barrier concrete blocks in the sea off Algeciras - the delays apparently stopped a few days later, according to the FO anyway - I don't know anyone there to ask :)
The EU have been lobbied from both sides apparently http://newsinthesun.com/rocky-times-on-the-rock/

Interesting that the Malvinas :) have chosen to start sabre rattling at the same time......i also read that the spanish government were angry at the fact that the gibraltans had built a reef that interfered with spanish fishing, and the money raised from the €50 levy would go to compensating the affected fishermen

[Goldenmaniac]

i also read that the spanish government were angry at the fact that the gibraltans had built a reef that interfered with spanish fishing, and the money raised from the €50 levy would go to compensating the affected fishermen yeh the blocks make up the artificial reef and concrete lorries bring in materials to cast more blocks were stopped at the border.

[marbro8]

yeh the blocks make up the artificial reef and concrete lorries bring in materials to cast more blocks were stopped at the border.sorry GM, i was being idle and didn't click on your link which in fact explaines everything:ashamed:;)

[babybadger]

Yes if gibraltar give me permanent residency , fiscally as well

[Cati]

I think if people were going to boycott Tenerife it would be to support the United Kingdom not just Gibraltar as the issue is between Spain and the British goverment so most British citizens should support their motherland and I think Spain are forgetting the number of Spanish citizens who cross the border every day to work in Gibraltar while they are thinking about introducing a 50 euro toll their own people are going to suffer and will be added to the huge Spanish unemployment list!

[marbro8]

I think if people were going to boycott Tenerife it would be to support the United Kingdom not just Gibraltar as the issue is between Spain and the British goverment so most British citizens should support their motherland and I think Spain are forgetting the number of Spanish citizens who cross the border every day to work in Gibraltar while they are thinking about introducing a 50 euro toll their own people are going to suffer and will be added to the huge Spanish unemployment list!good post cati:wink2:the region of la linea across the border is poverty stricken, and it is said that 10,000 people's livelihoods in that area are threatened for the sake of 30 fishermen:(

[Greg]

Interesting that the Malvinas have chosen to start sabre rattling at the same time......
PFFFT naughty. You mean Falklands!!!!:twak:

[Goldenmaniac]

Interesting that the Malvinas have chosen to start sabre rattling at the same time......
PFFFT naughty. You mean Falklands!!!!:twak:
I wondered how long it would take someone to pick up on that :respect: although of course tecnically it's the Argentinians that are doing the sabre rattling :)

[Medanoman]

I think Spain are forgetting the number of Spanish citizens who cross the border every day to work in Gibraltar while they are thinking about introducing a 50 euro toll their own people are going to suffer and will be added to the huge Spanish unemployment list!

Indeed you are right...but Rajoy is getting totally fed up with the scandals in his own party over the Barcenas saga...Any small relief ( i.e. declarng war on Gibraltar or saying that the island perijil has been invaded by Morocco is good if it takes him out of the lime light and news paper headlines...indeed i got this overheard conversation in my facebook account today....


http://laputadadeldia.muestratuscartas.org/p641/

In the recording, can be heard complaining Rajoy, first, of their relationships, "this is that no one can stand this , we have been sleeping separately for 2 months now ..." (which is interpreted as a scale of the extreme tension that there is in the Moncloa, as a result of the difficulties facing the Party). But what comes next is disturbing: "... this year there is no football, no Olympics (there is swimming , but that is Catalan ...), I think there is no choice but to resort to an extreme ...". "A last resort? Like what, "asks the minister. "Resource Malvinas naturally. " "What do you mean?" replies the minister, who is none the wiser. "do not know, Ceuta, Melilla, the Rock, Parsley Islands Let them decide ... consultants ... "

Source: http://www.lasinrazon.es/rumores/3845745-entretener-con-unas-malvinas

*: We report that the video has been removed at 13:30 hours without, so far, mediate any explanation by the newspaper.

The Malvinas or Falklands was teh event that saved Maggie Thatcher..Rajoy is looking for a similar malvinas to save him self...and for our spanish readers here is


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGxRDA8MFNY

quite a catchy tune..from franco days lol...

[Malteser Monkey]

Here we go this should go on for a few days lol

Well it is the holidays

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my husband nor his family sound like south americans they are chichareros pure

yes but generalising would los chichareros les gustan comparing with los españoles ? My Ex who was, wouldn't want comparing to a Spaniard, that was made very clear, neither would my Gomeran ex:whistle:


Well it is the holidays

[Cati]

Personally I think that the fishermen are just a smoke screen I think really Spain are deeply unhappy about the progress of Gibraltar and their economy recently the foreign minister Jose Manuel Garcia Margallo, gave us a flavour of this when he greeted a British Conservative MEP with the slogan "Gibraltar, Español!" Like Argentina, Spain also seems to want to take this dispute, once again, to the UN. Speaking after the recent Somalia conference in London, Garcia Margallo said: "There’s no need for a prophet or a Pulitzer Prize to know that in the coming UN session, Malvinas and Gibraltar will be discussed and that the UN will again reiterate that we must sit and negotiate however the same foreign minister has added that he would write to the British Government to formally reject the principle that the Gibraltarians themselves should have the right to veto any negotiations so not much sitting and negotiating in my mind!

The new local Socialist chief minister for Gibraltar Fabian Picardo was quite blunt in his response to Spain’s latest demands: "We are always hopeful that Spain will follow us into the 21st Century and drop its claim on our land... it seems to me the Spanish have other more important priorities than historic claims over my people."

Gibraltar has been a British territory since 1704 and was formally ceded by Spain to the UK in the Treaty of Utrecht in 1713. Picardo even invited Spain to have the courage of convictions and try to bring its case to court, saying “Gibraltar would be delighted to counter Spain’s views. Our claims to self-determination are unanswerable in international law – I have no doubt about that.”

Thankfully, the current British prime minister, foreign secretary and European minister have been unanimous in backing Gibraltar’s right to remain British, and have let this be known to Spanish prime minister Mariano Rajoy. Picardo thanked them for supporting Gibraltar “in the face of the intransigent Spanish insistence on the claim over the sovereignty of the Rock and the clamour for the revival of the ‘dead and buried’ Brussels Process.” Honestly as if Spain doesn´t have more to worry about in politics than the dead and buried process! And as soon as Spain has started to attack Gibraltar Morroco is up in arms over the island of Perejil it´s a case of you throw a stone and I throw a rock :twak:

[Cati]

Prince Felipe recently was said to be trying to put pressure on the British monarchy over Gibraltar via Prince Charles I think Spain is trying to make ends meet and it doesn´t matter from where!

[marbro8]

Prince Felipe recently was said to be trying to put pressure on the British monarchy over Gibraltar via Prince Charles I think Spain is trying to make ends meet and it doesn´t matter from where!the thing is gibraltar is british no mater what pressure prince felipe puts on anyone, it was signed over in 1713 and everyone there sees theirselves as british? it will always be and i think that whatever happens we should never abandon them just like we never abandoned the falklander's

[Medanoman]

the thing is Gibraltar is British no mater what pressure prince Felipe puts on anyone, it was signed over in 1713 and everyone there sees themselves as British? It will always be and i think that whatever happens we should never abandon them just like we never abandoned the Falkland's

Its a bit hard for Felipe to ask about getting Gibraltar back when his dad was instrumental in giving Western Sahara away

http://darkernet.in/spanish-general-commences-litigation-against-king-juan-carlos-for-murder-genocide/

[tracy hampshire]

what spain did to the saharaui is appaling, many people are still living in encampments unable to return to there homes, they have been persicuted by the moroccan government , things are only now just easing due to the un comming in to police the area, this is something very close to my heart as my husband is sarahaui, he left his country 20 years ago & has not been able to return, we are now fighting to get him spanish residency so he will at last be able to go visit his family, we are as i speak trying for the 3rd time to get him his papers x

[9PLUS]

Its a bit hard for Felipe to ask about getting Gibraltar back when his dad was instrumental in giving Western Sahara away

http://darkernet.in/spanish-general-commences-litigation-against-king-juan-carlos-for-murder-genocide/




Thats always a conversation stopper, the Spanish bring up Gib and just mentioning Ceuta y Melilla normally does the trick.


Si pero, yeah but yeah but yeah...



Next one, that UK own Gib there's no doubt about that, the territorial waters for Gib and the airspace are not questionable even though the Spanish seem to be focusing on that, it's all UN/international convention approved.

[Bobby]

I'm afraid I would be selfish and still holiday on Tenerife.

[Angusjim]

I'm afraid I would be selfish and still holiday on Tenerife.

You should be ashamed of yourself have you no sense of patriotism hang you head in shame :redcard::whistle:

[marbro8]

I'm afraid I would be selfish and still holiday on Tenerife.i think it depends on how far they push us, if it escalated and it got really bad then i would boycott any spanish holiday destination, as much as i love tenerife, i am very patriotic, even though we are the dumping ground of europe:mad:

[Angusjim]

i think it depends on how far they push us, if it escalated and it got really bad then i would boycott any spanish holiday destination, as much as i love tenerife, i am very patriotic, even though we are the dumping ground of europe:mad:

here here Marbro:bowdown::agree:

[universal]

Taken from Wikipedia:
"The Gibraltar Artificial Reef, or simply the Gibraltar Reef is the ongoing artificial reef project for the Mediterranean waters surrounding the British overseas territory of Gibraltar. The initiative was started in 1973 by Dr. Eric Shaw of the Helping Hand Trust.
It consists of a collection of sunken wrecks designed to give marine wildlife an environment to breed and colonize.
The reef project has been the centre of political disagreements between Spain and the UK government."

As you can see from the above this is nothing new, work on the reef has been ongoing for the past 40 years.
I was in Gib some six weeks ago and queues then were 3-4 hours to get in at mid afternoon on the way out they were almost as bad. On the British side there are permanent official signs apologizing for the behavior of the Spanish authorities, in English, Spanish and French, they encourage visitors to make complaints to the relevant Spanish Ministry.
This latest wave of disproportionate action by Guardia Civil at the border crossing is simply a means to distract attention from the more serious issues currently being faced by Sr Rajoy and his cabinet.

[ameal4two]

End this now ,give Gibraltar back to Spain

[junglejim]

End this now ,give Gibraltar back to Spain
Ha Ha , give N.Ireland back to the Irish , Scotland and it´s resources back to Scottish, Malvinas back to Argentina , Israel back to Palestine ,
Cueta and Melilla back to Morroco , Canaries back to Africa - ad nauseaum ..... simples innit!

[ameal4two]

Sure is,sounds good to me

[universal]

A fleet of British warships will visit Gibraltar this month in what Prime Minister David Cameron calls a “routine deployment”, amid escalating tensions between the UK and Spain over access to the island.

The Ministry of Defence confirmed that the frigate HMS Westminster and two auxiliary Royal Navy ships will be sent to the Rock, while another three warships will visit Spanish ports.

This is taken from The Independent, other sources are quoting 4 warships and 6 support vessels.

Should be fun............

[tracey]

Would not be at all surprised if Spain takes that as a threat :crazy:

[universal]

Despite claims that the "visit" had been long planned.....

"The visit was announced two days after Gibraltar’s chief minister demanded that warships be sent to stop Spanish incursions into the Rock's territorial waters. On Thursday, Fabian Picardo told The Telegraph the territory would be delighted to welcome the Royal Navy."

[junglejim]

Sure is,sounds good to me
Oh!- and can we have our Marbles back please ?

[marbro8]

A fleet of British warships will visit Gibraltar this month in what Prime Minister David Cameron calls a “routine deployment”, amid escalating tensions between the UK and Spain over access to the island.

The Ministry of Defence confirmed that the frigate HMS Westminster and two auxiliary Royal Navy ships will be sent to the Rock, while another three warships will visit Spanish ports.

This is taken from The Independent, other sources are quoting 4 warships and 6 support vessels.

Should be fun............it was reported yesterday that cameron rang the spanish pm and threatened to take them to the european court, so the spanish pm was said to back down, but still had a moan about the artificial reef and cameron said he would in turn look into it:dontknow:, i wonder if some of this is being over egged by the press;)

[sunseeker]

it was reported yesterday that cameron rang the spanish pm and threatened to take them to the european court, so the spanish pm was said to back down, but still had a moan about the artificial reef and cameron said he would in turn look into it:dontknow:, i wonder if some of this is being over egged by the press;)

The spanish pm is called rajoy. :)

[marbro8]

The spanish pm is called rajoy. :)thanks:lol:, i couldn't remember what his name was and i was looking for the newspaper cutting but couldn't find it:lol:

[sunseeker]

I thought so coz you mentioned Cameron by name a couple of times put called rajoy 'Spanish pm' lol :D

[funhunter]

Come on guys let's get this right, Rahoy is not a P.M. he's the President of Spain.

[universal]

it was reported yesterday that cameron rang the spanish pm and threatened to take them to the european court, so the spanish pm was said to back down, but still had a moan about the artificial reef and cameron said he would in turn look into it:dontknow:, i wonder if some of this is being over egged by the press;)

The Spanish news coverage of this event is, needless to say, not quite the same as the British version.
Rajoy has stated that the actions of Spain are not illegal nor disproportionate and will continue until Britain enters into dialogue over the sovereignty of Gibralta.
They have been put in place in order to "protect the interests of the Spanish citizen"!

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Come on guys let's get this right, Rahoy is not a P.M. he's the President of Spain.

Rajoy is actually the P.M. and only the president of the government, not of Spain

[junglejim]

Ha Ha ,Tenerife Forum gets a mention in Diario de Avisos over Gibraltar and boycotting Spain and Tenerife! :hi:

http://www.diariodeavisos.com/2013/08/eurodiputada-pide-boicotear-espana-como-destino-vacacional-2/?utm_content=bufferac62f&utm_source=buffer&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Buffer

[marbro8]

Ha Ha ,Tenerife Forum gets a mention in Diario de Avisos over Gibraltar and boycotting Spain and Tenerife! :hi:

http://www.diariodeavisos.com/2013/08/eurodiputada-pide-boicotear-espana-como-destino-vacacional-2/?utm_content=bufferac62f&utm_source=buffer&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Buffer:lol: i hope they don't put me on the banned list for starting this thread:doh::D, mind you if the hostilities continue towards our brothers on the rock then i won't be bothered:redcard:

[TOTO 99]

:lol: i hope they don't put me on the banned list for starting this thread:doh::D, mind you if the hostilities continue towards our brothers on the rock then i won't be bothered:redcard:

Wait till Rajoy reads it. He'll put a hit man on you...:lol:

[marbro8]

Wait till Rajoy reads it. He'll put a hit man on you...:lol:just got back from chelmesford, i can't believe that my nephew has been signing in as me on the forum for the last week and stirred up all this trouble:whistle:

[KirstyJay]

Ha Ha ,Tenerife Forum gets a mention in Diario de Avisos over Gibraltar and boycotting Spain and Tenerife! :hi:

http://www.diariodeavisos.com/2013/08/eurodiputada-pide-boicotear-espana-como-destino-vacacional-2/?utm_content=bufferac62f&utm_source=buffer&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Buffer

You're all being watched! :eek: ;) :D

[marbro8]

You're all being watched! :eek: ;) :Dit does make you wonder:hide:, it's things like this that put you on peoples "to watch list" well if you ARE watching, take a look at this:bootyshake::lol:

[melm]

just got back from chelmesford, i can't believe that my nephew has been signing in as me on the forum for the last week and stirred up all this trouble:whistle:

are you scared ??:gun::gun:

[marbro8]

are you scared ??:gun::gun:na:wink:, i can't see anyone important being bothered with an ageing gas man spouting a bit of patriotism on a forum:lol:

[melm]

na:wink:, i can't see anyone important being bothered with an ageing gas man spouting a bit of patriotism on a forum:lol:

Gas you say hmm............say no more:eyebrows:

[TOTO 99]

Look on the bright side marbro8....it's not every day you find a horses head in your bed..:lol:

[marbro8]

Look on the bright side marbro8....it's not every day you find a horses head in your bed..:lol:"OK" who's been telling tales? that was a mistake and i have paid for it:wink2::D

[TOTO 99]

"OK" who's been telling tales? that was a mistake and i have paid for it:wink2::D

Lol...anyway, here's your new shirt for work tomorrow..

4977

[marbro8]

................................. you are making me nervous now:lol:

[universal]

The minister for Foreign Affairs, Garcia-Margallo, has now stated he intends to make representation to the U.N. over sovereignty issues and to The Hague in order to confirm the validity of the Treaty of Utrecht!
He also plans to fly to Buenas Aires next month top meet his Argentine counterpart, Hector Timmerman, in order to discuss forming a Spanish/Argentine alliance!!

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Incidentally;
One on the options being considered by Garcia-Margallo -
Option Three : Using the Argentine temporary presidency of the United Nations Security Council, to move a joint motion against Britain for both the Falkland Islands and Gibraltar.

[marbro8]

The minister for Foreign Affairs, Garcia-Margallo, has now stated he intends to make representation to the U.N. over sovereignty issues and to The Hague in order to confirm the validity of the Treaty of Utrecht!
He also plans to fly to Buenas Aires next month top meet his Argentine counterpart, Hector Timmerman, in order to discuss forming a Spanish/Argentine alliance!!

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Incidentally;
One on the options being considered by Garcia-Margallo -
Option Three : Using the Argentine temporary presidency of the United Nations Security Council, to move a joint motion against Britain for both the Falkland Islands and Gibraltar.it bloody stinks:angry:, their economy's must be bad for them to want to band together, well i know we would send another task force to the falklands if it escalated because they are not an ally, but i don't know what we would do with spain:dontknow:, i think they would lose more than they gained:angry:

[tracey]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23668589

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Also, I dont know how factual this is but ....

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=483344785086168&set=a.295032580584057.74612.295025287251453&type=1&theater

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if anyone would like a totally biased view from the Gibraltans click here

https://www.facebook.com/BritishRockOfGibraltar

[tracey]

http://gbc.gi/news/2249/cameron-asks-barroso-to-urgently-send-eu-team-to-gibraltar

[warbey]

A few thousand more Brits on the Peninsula and We should have

enough to get a Government.

The NEXT President will be Jones or Roberts..........

Joking apart, I feel it's becoming very serious when Spain calls for an Alliance with Argentina


Make sure that Settee is armour Plated, marbro8

[tracey]

It does seem to be worsening, Gib cars have been set alight in La Linea (3 that I have heard about) and violence from the Guardia (not a secure source). The Spanish calling for help from their fishermen (including the colonies) to remove the artificial reef put down by Gibraltar before the Royal Navy arrive on Monday.

[marbro8]

It does seem to be worsening, Gib cars have been set alight in La Linea (3 that I have heard about) and violence from the Guardia (not a secure source). The Spanish calling for help from their fishermen (including the colonies) to remove the artificial reef put down by Gibraltar before the Royal Navy arrive on Monday.i must admit i am close to pulling out of our october break now:angry:, we have paid £500 for our flights and £100 deposit on our apartment, but principle means more to me than money, having said that my wife is giving me grief and i will probably have to give in to her bullying:o

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A few thousand more Brits on the Peninsula and We should have

enough to get a Government.

The NEXT President will be Jones or Roberts..........

Joking apart, I feel it's becoming very serious when Spain calls for an Alliance with Argentina


Make sure that Settee is armour Plated, marbro8i am now thinking of asking for police protection, and a new identity:lol:

[tracey]

Remember though that the Canaries dont count as Spain! :)

[marbro8]

Remember though that the Canaries dont count as Spain! :)but they do because they are under spanish rule? i know that they are duty free but still thought they were spanish? and if that's right then all money made in the canaries goes to the spanish government

[Pooh]

Remember though that the Canaries dont count as Spain! :)

Of course they do. The Canaries are made up of two Spanish provinces, Las Palmas de Gran Canaria and Santa Cruz de Tenerife.
They also have a regional common government, but are as much Spain as any other Spanish province.
They are also part of the European Union. The only thing they are NOT, is being part of the EU VAT zone, since they are kind of a free trade area.
If you get residency here you are getting SPANISH residency, nothing else.

[tracey]

tongue in cheek :)

[Angusjim]

i must admit i am close to pulling out of our october break now:angry:, we have paid £500 for our flights and £100 deposit on our apartment, but principle means more to me than money, having said that my wife is giving me grief and i will probably have to give in to her bullying:o

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i am now thinking of asking for police protection, and a new identity:lol:

I am with you Marbro if they continue down this route I will boycott Spain including Tenerife its a disgrace and I hope all Brits are giving thought to this:mad:

[TOTO 99]

The difficulty with boycotting is that with holidays you generally have to book well in advance especially if you want to specify where you want to stay etc.

The whole thing could have blown over well before you're due to go and you've shot yourself in the foot...:doh:

[Angusjim]

The difficulty with boycotting is that with holidays you generally have to book well in advance especially if you want to specify where you want to stay etc.

The whole thing could have blown over well before you're due to go and you've shot yourself in the foot...:doh:

Some things are more important than money !!

[TOTO 99]

Some things are more important than money !!

I agree Aj, and I would have no problem joining a boycot if things don't calm down.

I was more concerned about missing out on my holidays..lol. Nowhere else takes my fancy so I'd have to stay at home..brr

[Angusjim]

I agree Aj, and I would have no problem joining a boycot if things don't calm down.

I was more concerned about missing out on my holidays..lol. Nowhere else takes my fancy so I'd have to stay at home..brr

Try Gibraltar:wink:

[marbro8]

Try Gibraltar:wink::laugh::laugh::laugh:.........

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I agree Aj, and I would have no problem joining a boycot if things don't calm down.

I was more concerned about missing out on my holidays..lol. Nowhere else takes my fancy so I'd have to stay at home..brrtwo of our other favorite places are cyprus and malta, both with a lot of british history and they love the brits:wink:

[TOTO 99]

Thinking about in now it wouldn't be as straight forward as you might think.

If you rent an apartment it's usually from a Brit.

The airline that flies you out would possibly be british.

The bars you drink in are possibly British owned and their staff are British.

I guess it would a difficult decision to make when some of our own would be losing out...

[Angusjim]

Thinking about in now it wouldn't be as straight forward as you might think.

If you rent an apartment it's usually from a Brit.

The airline that flies you out would possibly be british.

The bars you drink in are possibly British owned and their staff are British.

I guess it would a difficult decision to make when some of our own would be losing out...

TOTO I for one would have no problem at all making this "difficult decision".

[marbro8]

I am with you Marbro if they continue down this route I will boycott Spain including Tenerife its a disgrace and I hope all Brits are giving thought to this:mad:considering there has been over 4,000 views on this topic apart from you me and maybe toto, there doesn't seem to be a lot of patriotism among us:(, maybe someone could put something on the forum whereby we could have a graph and members cast a vote anonymously?

[TOTO 99]

TOTO I for one would have no problem at all making this "difficult decision".

Let's hope you don't have to...

Everyone knows Spain can't afford to do much about anything. They're just making a point for as long as they can get away with it. You'd think they'd have better things to do really...

[Angusjim]

We are no exactly flush either maybe could be settled with a game of draughts in a neutral venue

[TOTO 99]

We are no exactly flush either maybe could be settled with a game of draughts in a neutral venue

For money?..:laugh:

[Angusjim]

For money?..:laugh:

Maybe Spain's preferred method of payment brown envelopes:whistle:

[tracey]

considering there has been over 4,000 views on this topic apart from you me and maybe toto, there doesn't seem to be a lot of patriotism among us:(, maybe someone could put something on the forum whereby we could have a graph and members cast a vote anonymously?

I support Gibraltar wholeheatedly but I have been in Spain 9 years and run a business that relies on British tourists. So obviously I would like an alternative solution

[marbro8]

I support Gibraltar wholeheatedly but I have been in Spain 9 years and run a business that relies on British tourists. So obviously I would like an alternative solutionyou will have to come home tracey:cheeky:, toto hit on that problem a few posts back, but i don't think that it would get that bad, would it?:dontknow:

[TOTO 99]

I wonder what the average Spaniard thinks of it all?

My first reaction was to think they probably don't care at all but on reflection, they're suffering huge unemployment problems. Lots of people really really struggling with nothing on the horizon. And nobody to take it out on..

It doesn't take much to get the people rioting these days, they just need a trigger. Not ideal for British people living and working in Spain...Doesn't bear thinking about really.

[Angusjim]

I wonder what the average Spaniard thinks of it all?

My first reaction was to think they probably don't care at all but on reflection, they're suffering huge unemployment problems. Lots of people really really struggling with nothing on the horizon. And nobody to take it out on..

It doesn't take much to get the people rioting these days, they just need a trigger. Not ideal for British people living and working in Spain...Doesn't bear thinking about really.

I think I saw a report somewhere that around 10000 Spanish are employed in Gibraltar

[marbro8]

I wonder what the average Spaniard thinks of it all?

My first reaction was to think they probably don't care at all but on reflection, they're suffering huge unemployment problems. Lots of people really really struggling with nothing on the horizon. And nobody to take it out on..

It doesn't take much to get the people rioting these days, they just need a trigger. Not ideal for British people living and working in Spain...Doesn't bear thinking about really.we are supposed to be eu partners, we should be pulling together and helping each other, not fighting over a colony that has been accepted(all be it fraught) as british for hundreds of years, "BUT" that is spains choice not ours:confused:

[TOTO 99]

I think I saw a report somewhere that around 10000 Spanish are employed in Gibraltar

I bet they'd get through the border quick if it kicked off...:laugh:

[tracey]

There have already been reports of Gib registered cars being set alight in La Linea :scared:

[TOTO 99]

There have already been reports of Gib registered cars being set alight in La Linea :scared:

Long way to go before you need to worry tracey.

Nevertheless, you might wanna pimp up the motor on one of your mobility scooters ready for a speedy escape...:moped:

[tracey]

I bet they'd get through the border quick if it kicked off...:laugh:

If they can get through these queues :spin:

http://www.frontierqueue.gi/frontiercamera.aspx

[universal]

Apart from the Spanish enclaves of Ceuta and Melilla (and 3 other outposts held in Morocco) What about the little known case of Olivença. See an extract taken from The Daily Telegraph:-

If Spain wants Gibraltar, when it it planning to give up Olivença?
Posted By: Daniel Hannan at Mar 13, 2009

What if it had been the other way around? What if Spain had helped itself to a slice of
someone else's territory, forced the defeated nation to cede it in a subsequent treaty,
and hung on to it? Would Madrid behave as it wants Britain to behave over Gibraltar? ¡Ni
pensarlo!

How can I be so sure? Because there is precisely such a case. In 1801, France and Spain,
then allies, demanded that Portugal abandon her ancient friendship with England and close
her ports to British ships. The Portuguese staunchly refused, whereupon Bonaparte and his
Spanish confederates marched on the little kingdom. Portugal was overrun and, by the
Treaty of Badajoz, forced to give up the town of Olivença, on the left bank of the
Guadiana.

[marbro8]

Apart from the Spanish enclaves of Ceuta and Melilla (and 3 other outposts held in Morocco) What about the little known case of Olivença. See an extract taken from The Daily Telegraph:-

If Spain wants Gibraltar, when it it planning to give up Olivença?
Posted By: Daniel Hannan at Mar 13, 2009

What if it had been the other way around? What if Spain had helped itself to a slice of
someone else's territory, forced the defeated nation to cede it in a subsequent treaty,
and hung on to it? Would Madrid behave as it wants Britain to behave over Gibraltar? ¡Ni
pensarlo!

How can I be so sure? Because there is precisely such a case. In 1801, France and Spain,
then allies, demanded that Portugal abandon her ancient friendship with England and close
her ports to British ships. The Portuguese staunchly refused, whereupon Bonaparte and his
Spanish confederates marched on the little kingdom. Portugal was overrun and, by the
Treaty of Badajoz, forced to give up the town of Olivença, on the left bank of the
Guadiana.it's a classic case of do as i say not do as i do then:whistle:

[tracey]

Spanish protests

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[marbro8]

looks like it's gone quiet?

[Malteser Monkey]

The forum quiet in general chunky - all the scots in Tenerife :D

[marbro8]

The forum quiet in general chunky - all the scots in Tenerife :Dyou mean they have vacated blackpool :laugh:, i was talking to one scottish lad at tea time and he wanted to shake my hand, when i met him at 12.00 pm he wanted to head but me:crylaughing:

[Malteser Monkey]

you mean they have vacated blackpool :laugh:, i was talking to one scottish lad at tea time and he wanted to shake my hand, when i met him at 12.00 pm he wanted to head but me:crylaughing:

Lucky you lasted that long:laugh:

[warbey]

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Perhaps there's a Truce whilst Our Lot have Party Conferences or fall out with the Press.?

As many Spanish work in Gibraltar, it seems as if Someone has shot Themselves in the Foot, anyhow.?

[marbro8]

.
.
Perhaps there's a Truce whilst Our Lot have Party Conferences or fall out with the Press.?

As many Spanish work in Gibraltar, it seems as if Someone has shot Themselves in the Foot, anyhow.?there doesn't seem to be any hostilities reported at the moment??? perhaps they have given up and gone home:)

[warbey]

there doesn't seem to be any hostilities reported at the moment??? perhaps they have given up and gone home:)

So You too can go then. It'll be just like Blackpool, the Other half of Scotland are there already.

A.J. may well be there too Mate..

[Angusjim]

there doesn't seem to be any hostilities reported at the moment??? perhaps they have given up and gone home:)

Obviously they read this thread and have had second thoughts, the power of Forum wins again:spin::laugh:

[marbro8]

they have been at it again:mad:. an incursion into british waters on the guise of chasing drug dealers. they were meters away from the cost at one point. nobody is saying they should let the drug dealers escape. but they should have either asked permission to enter or passed the chase over to the gibraltar officials :mad:. the government should really do something this time. instead of just letting the people of gibraltar down. if the territory is british then it's british, no if's or but's. just because spain is an eu neighbour it doesn't give them the right to take the "PEE":nono:

[Tonysoprano]

Never get embroiled in Political petty disagreements.

[marbro8]

Never get embroiled in Political petty disagreements.but that's just it. i don't think it is petty. these people have sworn allegiance to our queen and country. so they deserve our support.at least political support

[warbey]

Never get embroiled in Political petty disagreements.

Is Your Family name Blair by any chance.?...:D

[Tonysoprano]

but that's just it. i don't think it is petty. these people have sworn allegiance to our queen and country. so they deserve our support.at least political support

The queen doesn't worry about the working man.

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Is Your Family name Blair by any chance.?...:D

haha don't you'll cause mass destruction if you uncover me......Anyway I'm away to hide in a BUSH...

[TOTO 99]

Is Your Family name Blair by any chance.?...:D

Looks like you've rumbled him Warbs...:lol:

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[warbey]

Looks like you've rumbled him Warbs...:lol:

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Seriously. ahem,,,,,,,,, I think most of HIS type are failed Car Salesmen

They promise all sorts You would never ever believe at a Garage, but in Government they get away with it.

We still pay them too.!!!!! doh...or, cor blimey..

Tonysoprano, The bush is the Shepherd's one I take it.?
Tony doesn't bother too much about the working Man either
unless YOU got a 10% pay rise too.

[Tonysoprano]

Seriously. ahem,,,,,,,,, I think most of HIS type are failed Car Salesmen

They promise all sorts You would never ever believe at a Garage, but in Government they get away with it.

We still pay them too.!!!!! doh...or, cor blimey..

Tonysoprano, The bush is the Shepherd's one I take it.?
Tony doesn't bother too much about the working Man either
unless YOU got a 10% pay rise too.

George Bush

TONY and GEORGE a perfect storm