Do you need a license to get renovations done in Tenerife?

[BrianT]

Expect it is not the correct name. What is the correct name, any info would be great. Below is how I heard about.
The president asked a Spanish couple to clear away all the renovation rumble from there balcony as it was seen from a pathway in complex. Yes yes within 2 days was the reply, a few weeks later it was still there. President then told them to get it cleared within the same day or he would call the police to check there license. Reply was no no no we get it cleared, it was all gone before dark that night.

I believe a percentage is payable of the total cost of work updating the property, can anybody confirm and for how long it is valid.

Thanks.

[junglejim]

I would imagine any structural renovation would require planning permission from council?
Community rules usually also require approval for structural changes and normally no external modifications - some complexes even require certification from tradesmen to ensure they are properly registered for taxes , insurance etc, rather than cash in hand "cowboys" ,

[bulldog]

there is such a thing as 'licencia de obra pequena ''but if you are not making any external alterations nobody bothers
most renovations are renewals ,kitchen,bathroom,tiles ,painting,etc.it never pays to upset neighbours on a complex
you never know what a visit from the local police will lead to.you would never get legal permission to alter externally
any property on a complex they are build to there max.volume from day one.

[delderek]

In theory, you also need a licence for most internal works, mainly so neighbours can be informed of any future noise. But in practice, not many bother.

Minor works “Licencia de Obra Menor”

In houses: Non structural partial renovation of repair, ground renovation, modification or substitution, ceilings, walls, stucco, plated, installation of plumbing, electricity, heating, cleaning and others, painting, stuccoed and other coatings and interior carpentry
Partial repairs to the outer façade of buildings: façades, balconies, salient elements

What documents are required?

Standardized application form.
Photographs of the present sate of the area to renovate.
Description of the works to be carried out
Budget breakdown of the costs involved
Health and safety study
Plans of the project

[bulldog]

In theory, you also need a licence for most internal works, mainly so neighbours can be informed of any future noise. But in practice, not many bother.

Minor works “Licencia de Obra Menor”

In houses: Non structural partial renovation of repair, ground renovation, modification or substitution, ceilings, walls, stucco, plated, installation of plumbing, electricity, heating, cleaning and others, painting, stuccoed and other coatings and interior carpentry
Partial repairs to the outer façade of buildings: façades, balconies, salient elements

What documents are required?

Standardized application form.
Photographs of the present sate of the area to renovate.
Description of the works to be carried out
Budget breakdown of the costs involved
Health and safety study
Plans of the project

can I ask where you got that info.from? Why stucco ? which is an expensive aplication highly polished with a special
trowel the finish looks like marble can cost 50euros a M2.I only know of a few in the South who can do it for some
reason they are mainly Italians.

[delderek]

It is a a Spanish law not just the Canaries, but like everything else if the authorities can earn money from issuing these licences, then of course they will. Here is the link.

http://www.velascolawyers.com/en/property-law/82-renovating-a-property-in-spain.html

[bulldog]

It is a a Spanish law not just the Canaries, but like everything else if the authorities can earn money from issuing these licences, then of course they will. Here is the link.

http://www.velascolawyers.com/en/property-law/82-renovating-a-property-in-spain.html

thanks,I was just curious here in Tenerife stucco is a specialised product I know in the USA it widely used for house
exteriors but they are wood structures skinned in plywood then taped and messed then stucco is trowelled on
the final coat is sprayed on using a spatter hopper giving it a stipple finish here its concrete block finished in
sand and cement or monocapa or capafina or mortero seco fina.You,re right about the paperwork but sadly
in Arona and Adeje they never let it be that easy.

[BrianT]

I also know of another property on a complex (not an apartment) where material was delivered to renew patio (the property was also being renovated), the delivery vehicle was to big for the narrow access road so the material was left on the pavement at complex entrance. The police arrived ( I suspect called by a resident) to say they would give an hour for it to be moved or be fined, they actually gave 2 hours after a bit of discussion. They didn't have renovation license but have applied for one now, which I believe can take up to 6 weeks to get.

[junglejim]

There must have been about a dozen or more apartments on our complex that have been renovated / remodeled internally on our complex this year -I doubt if any had a licence !

[BrianT]

There must have been about a dozen or more apartments on our complex that have been renovated / remodeled internally on our complex this year -I doubt if any had a licence !

It's something I want to do (not to sure about wife) so trying to get as much info as possible. My worry would be if the noise bothered the neighbours enough and they had a bit of knowledge of the Spanish system being reported halfway through the renovation then being unable to get license to complete the work.

[Megaloo]

My Son had a new patio laid in his Garden and the chap doing it insisted on going to get a license always better to have so if neighbours complain you have no problem. I
I think the cost of the license is based on the quote for the work?

[sundownersvince]

Some people just amaze me. Please Sir, can I pay some extra tax?

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And before you lot jump down my throat the OP didnt make it very clear what exactly he wanted to do. Reading between the lines maybe he wishes to lay a new patio? Well mate if the land definitely belongs to you and you dont intend to lay orange luminescent slabs, make a hell of a racket and leave rubble around, I guess you wont annoy anyone enough to report you to authorities, assuming they can write Spanish enough to fill in the form first anyway............

[junglejim]

Actually ,no Vince ! The community overlords have the right to insist that your Patio tiles conform to the community norm as it is external- on our complex that was the rule but we challenged the President to take us to court as we didn´t want Terracotta tiling .
Any changes externally must be approved by community ,even putting up gazebo on your patio ,or replacing patio doors or windows must conform to complex plan ( and even council can intervene ).

[bonitatime]

I have worked with builders who wont Work without one

[BrianT]

Some people just amaze me. Please Sir, can I pay some extra tax?

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And before you lot jump down my throat the OP didnt make it very clear what exactly he wanted to do. Reading between the lines maybe he wishes to lay a new patio? Well mate if the land definitely belongs to you and you dont intend to lay orange luminescent slabs, make a hell of a racket and leave rubble around, I guess you wont annoy anyone enough to report you to authorities, assuming they can write Spanish enough to fill in the form first anyway............

Not sure if you talking about my posts (but no problem if you are though) the apartment we have looked at needs a total refurb, new floor tiles, kitchen, bathroom and that's what we can see on a couple of short visits. There is long lets either side who I think are Spanish. There is also a few Spanish on the complex, a few years back somebody (Brits) got verbal agreement to make a gate entrance into there patio area, they had just cut the wall when the police arrived needless to say the wall was put back as it was very promptly.

[kingbaker]

Sounds like francos still alive:(

[Jabba43]

What you can do is get a gestor to apply for the permit and start the work. If your neighbours are nasty and call the police then just give them the number of the gestor who will tell them that it is in process. The trick is if there is no complaints you just do not bother paying the council for the permit, I think it is 3 or 6% of the build cost.

[bulldog]

What you can do is get a gestor to apply for the permit and start the work. If your neighbours are nasty and call the police then just give them the number of the gestor who will tell them that it is in process. The trick is if there is no complaints you just do not bother paying the council for the permit, I think it is 3 or 6% of the build cost.

nice idea Jabba43,but you pay up front for a licence it has strict conditions hours you can
work,Sat.Sun. is a big No,No.it has a time scale if you fail to complete there are fines to
pay.we,re talking Spain here.there,s loads more stuff but I,m being brief .if you upset a
neighbour enough for them to denouce you whether you have a licence or a make believe
one the local police will be giving you a call.always best to try to fit in with the properties
around you normally most people are out during the working day its normally down to mess
made ,good buiders always give priority to this.

[junglejim]

Bulldog, I'm interested in your comment on no Saturday working as on our complex the President allows Saturday work including drilling/ cutting of tiles is this a legal dictat ? Sundays and public holidays are out as is anything before 9 a.m. and after 6 p.m.

[bulldog]

jj.my experience is with full building licence,s build 1 villa on 1 plot we would have 2 licence,s 1 to escavate
1 to construct.in Adeje,Arona,Granadilla it was 7.30am-5.00pm.Mon.-Fri.we sometimes worked Sat.Morn.
till 1 o,clock but never ever full on constuction maybe a sparky,plumber 2nd.fixing no noise and me weighing
up the job for the coming week [wondering where all the bloody money,s going] I can,t see a small job licence
allowing Sat.work.your complex is out of order.All the builders I know are self policing If you work hard all week
Mon.-Fri. in constuction you need the weekend to chillout.

[Angusjim]

jj.my experience is with full building licence,s build 1 villa on 1 plot we would have 2 licence,s 1 to escavate
1 to construct.in Adeje,Arona,Granadilla it was 7.30am-5.00pm.Mon.-Fri.we sometimes worked Sat.Morn.
till 1 o,clock but never ever full on constuction maybe a sparky,plumber 2nd.fixing no noise and me weighing
up the job for the coming week [wondering where all the bloody money,s going] I can,t see a small job licence
allowing Sat.work.your complex is out of order.All the builders I know are self policing If you work hard all week
Mon.-Fri. in constuction you need the weekend to chillout.

Always a good idea to end a post with a joke :crylaughing::D

[bulldog]

true AJ some of go to work carrying a pencil sharpner,others carrying a ton of concrete blocks:whistle: